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The Doctor recognised that the person that was aiming a gun at Wilf was a Vinvocci for being 1 inch taller, suggesting that all the Masters were the same height, but when Joshua Naismith and his daughter changed, it is clear that the Joshua Mater is taller than his Master Daughter.
The Doctor recognised that the person that was aiming a gun at Wilf was a Vinvocci for being 1 inch taller, suggesting that all the Masters were the same height, but when Joshua Naismith and his daughter changed, it is clear that the Joshua Mater is taller than his Master Daughter.


==The Date==
==12 May 199912 May 1999 ==
 
 


Who the hell keeps changing it to Christmas 2009? We all know the Doctor Who universe is a year ahead of us when it comes to modern day Earth stories (except for Blink) all because one three words: [[Aliens of London]]. The Doctor skipped a full year (episode aired in 2005), making all following modern day Earth stories be be a year ahead.
Who the hell keeps changing it to Christmas 2009? We all know the Doctor Who universe is a year ahead of us when it comes to modern day Earth stories (except for Blink) all because one three words: [[Aliens of London]]. The Doctor skipped a full year (episode aired in 2005), making all following modern day Earth stories be be a year ahead.


It was around March 2005 when she began met him, then he brought her back around March 2006. Following this, the rest of series 1 Doctor Who was set in 2006. By the Christmas Invasion (the end of series 1), it was Christmas 2006, making series 2 be the first half of 2007 (around June). Then most of Torchwood series 1 was all set in the rest of 2007, then Torchwood: Out of Time and Doctor Who: The Runaway Bride (set practially on the same day) were Christmas 2007. The remaining dew episodes of Torchwood series 1 was all early 2008. The Doctor came to Cardif near the date with Martha and Jack joined. They came back to Earth set a few months later around the begining of May 2008. I'm not sure what date Jack went back to Cardif, though. Then, after these 2008 events, it skipped to Voyage of the Damned, Christmas 2008, and then (tad confusing), at least the later half of Torchwood series 2 occurs in early 2009 (January-Febuary-March-April of 2009, the first few stories may be later 2008, but forget that), then series 4 Doctor Who spans a few mid-months of 2009 (April-May-June of 2009), then the series for finale of Doctor Who occurs either May or June 2009 (Beautiful Chaos is a good timeline source for series 4 Doctor Who), then Saraj Jane Adventures series 2 (set after the finale) is idealy late June-July-Auguest of 2009.  
It was around March 2005 when she began met him, then he brought her back around March 2006. Following this, the rest of series 1 Doctor Who was set in 2006. By the Christmas Invasion (the end of series 1), it was Christmas 2006, making series 2 be the first half of 2007 (around June). Then most of Torchwood series 1 was all set in the rest of 2007, then Torchwood: Out of Time and Doctor Who: The Runaway Bride (set practially on the same day) were Christmas 2007. The remaining dew episodes of Torchwood series 1 was all early 2008. The Doctor came to Cardif near the date with Martha and Jack joined. They came back to Earth set a few months later around the begining of May 2008. I'm not sure what date Jack went back to Cardif, though. Then, after these 2008 events, it skipped to Voyage of the Damned, Christmas 2008, and then (tad confusing), at least the later half of Torchwood series 2 occurs in early 2009 (January-Febuary-March-April of 2009, the first few stories may be later 2008, but forget that), then series 4 Doctor Who spans a few mid-months of 2009 (April-May-June of 2009), then the series for finale of Doctor Who occurs either May or June 2009 (Beautiful Chaos is a good timeline source for series 4 Doctor Who), then Saraj Jane Adventures series 2 (set after the finale) is idealy late June-July-Auguest of 2009.


Children of Earth then follows in September 2009, the events happen, and five months later - March 2010 - Jack leaves Earth. Planet of the Dead then April 2010, Sarah Jane Advetnures series 3 around October-November 2010. Luke meets the Tenth Doctor for the ''first time'' around November 2010. Then The End of Time around one month after the end of SJA series 2, Christmas 2010, and you'll never believe it... Luke (who met the Doctor for the first time around November 2010) meets the the Doctor for a second time and Jack (who left Earth in March 2010) is back.
Children of Earth then follows in September 2009, the events happen, and five months later - March 2010 - Jack leaves Earth. Planet of the Dead then April 2010, Sarah Jane Advetnures series 3 around October-November 2010. Luke meets the Tenth Doctor for the ''first time'' around November 2010. Then The End of Time around one month after the end of SJA series 2, Christmas 2010, and you'll never believe it... Luke (who met the Doctor for the first time around November 2010) meets the the Doctor for a second time and Jack (who left Earth in March 2010) is back.
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Stop putting The End of Time in 2009! Either you want it to be set before the events of the End of Time are foreshadow and want Luke to meet the Doctor who a second time before they even met for the first time (which was in later 2010) and Jack to to have come back with the Shadow Proclamation before he even left Earth (March 2010) to possible establish any contact with unearthly beings, or you want Sarah Jane Advetnures series 3 to be set in 2009, which will place Planet of the Dead in 2009, which will place series 4 in 2008, which will place series 3 in 2007, which will place series 2 in 2006, which will place the later half of series 1 in 2005, which will place the Doctor and Rose meeting (before he skip year) in 2004, only to learn that Rose does indeed meet the Doctor in 2005, making the year skip pushing everything a year ahead of us.
Stop putting The End of Time in 2009! Either you want it to be set before the events of the End of Time are foreshadow and want Luke to meet the Doctor who a second time before they even met for the first time (which was in later 2010) and Jack to to have come back with the Shadow Proclamation before he even left Earth (March 2010) to possible establish any contact with unearthly beings, or you want Sarah Jane Advetnures series 3 to be set in 2009, which will place Planet of the Dead in 2009, which will place series 4 in 2008, which will place series 3 in 2007, which will place series 2 in 2006, which will place the later half of series 1 in 2005, which will place the Doctor and Rose meeting (before he skip year) in 2004, only to learn that Rose does indeed meet the Doctor in 2005, making the year skip pushing everything a year ahead of us.


And further about it being aheadby one year: the writers have noted it, Beautiful Chaos directly stated it (it placed series 4 in 2009 and the Dalek nvasion after April, making the specials and SJA series 3 be 2010), and Abdelaide, who was living in the year 2059, said the Dalek invasion happened 50 years ago, meaning 2009 of series four (yeat again). The news articlke was a known mis-print (typos happen) and contradicted what Abdelaide said herself about how long ago it happened.  
And further about it being aheadby one year: the writers have noted it, Beautiful Chaos directly stated it (it placed series 4 in 2009 and the Dalek nvasion after April, making the specials and SJA series 3 be 2010), and Abdelaide, who was living in the year 2059, said the Dalek invasion happened 50 years ago, meaning 2009 of series four (yeat again). The news articlke was a known mis-print (typos happen) and contradicted what Abdelaide said herself about how long ago it happened.


Now answer the question, whoever you are, are you trying to make the timeline rip apart by placing The End of Time before the Doctor met Luke the first time, before the events were foreshadowed, and before Jack left Earth (Jack comes back with a bunch of aliens from what I'm hearing, with an off-world colony that arrive on Earth, meaning he had left already), or are you attempting to put the whole time back a year and sync it with ours? Not going to work because of Aliens of London. The only way for it to be in sync now is if both series 5 and 6 are set in the same year (one could be the first half of the year, the other the second half).
Now answer the question, whoever you are, are you trying to make the timeline rip apart by placing The End of Time before the Doctor met Luke the first time, before the events were foreshadowed, and before Jack left Earth (Jack comes back with a bunch of aliens from what I'm hearing, with an off-world colony that arrive on Earth, meaning he had left already), or are you attempting to put the whole time back a year and sync it with ours? Not going to work because of Aliens of London. The only way for it to be in sync now is if both series 5 and 6 are set in the same year (one could be the first half of the year, the other the second half).


I'm guessing whoever it is wants the year all in syn with ours. The recsession is over in The End of Time and still happening in Planet of the Dead, too. Or you like to think Luke meets the Doctor a second time before he has met him the first time, Jack has come back before he left, the rescession is happening when it ended half a year ago, the list goes on and on. Because The Next Doctor wasn't set modern day Earth one year ahead and set in the past instead, Christmas 2009 was left unseen. People forget that. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 18:47, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
I'm guessing whoever it is wants the year all in syn with ours. The recsession is over in The End of Time and still happening in Planet of the Dead, too. Or you like to think Luke meets the Doctor a second time before he has met him the first time, Jack has come back before he left, the rescession is happening when it ended half a year ago, the list goes on and on. Because The Next Doctor wasn't set modern day Earth one year ahead and set in the past instead, Christmas 2009 was left unseen. People forget that. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 18:47, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


i agree it happened in 2010 someone keeps changing it and messing around with the time line. --Catkind121 21:29, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
i agree it happened in 2010 someone keeps changing it and messing around with the time line. --Catkind121 21:29, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
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Sign your name, above one. It doesn't change what producers are saying, however. It's called discontinuity, but nothing can really change that series 5 is set in the mid2--10 era, and this year and last year's stories both in the same year, Davies wanting to clear up his year skip for Moffat. We simply can't trust the date that Beautiful Chaos dates the series 4 finale, then, as it contradict the TV series somewhat. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 18:00, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Sign your name, above one. It doesn't change what producers are saying, however. It's called discontinuity, but nothing can really change that series 5 is set in the mid2--10 era, and this year and last year's stories both in the same year, Davies wanting to clear up his year skip for Moffat. We simply can't trust the date that Beautiful Chaos dates the series 4 finale, then, as it contradict the TV series somewhat. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 18:00, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


But Journeys End would have to take place at least a year after the events of Last of the time lords otherwise the earth in the year that never was would have been taken by the daleks. And Last of the Time Lords was said to take place 18 months after The Christmas Invasion.
But Journeys End would have to take place at least a year after the events of Last of the time lords otherwise the earth in the year that never was would have been taken by the daleks. And Last of the Time Lords was said to take place 18 months after The Christmas Invasion. Also Adelaide Brooke was born on the  12 May 1999 and was said to be 10 during the dalek invasion that took place in Journey's End, so it would have to take place later than the 12 May 2009.


== Time war,timelords,daleks ==
== Time war,timelords,daleks ==
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