Talk:Doctor Who: Lockdown!: Difference between revisions

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:::Obviously all commercial works are just commercials for capitalism and/or the IP itself which the company is selling. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:41, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Obviously all commercial works are just commercials for capitalism and/or the IP itself which the company is selling. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:41, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
::::Well, not ''quite''. There are many commercial works that are deemed invalid simply becuase the word "trailer" was used in the YouTube description. Take a look at ''[[Ace Returns! (webcast)]]'' and ''[[The Legend of... the Master? (webcast)]]''. Almost identical in content, but one is invalid due to the word "trailer" being used. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><tt>'''Epsilon'''</tt></span>]]''' '''[[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 16:47, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
::::Well, not ''quite''. There are many commercial works that are deemed invalid simply becuase the word "trailer" was used in the YouTube description. Take a look at ''[[Ace Returns! (webcast)]]'' and ''[[The Legend of... the Master? (webcast)]]''. Almost identical in content, but one is invalid due to the word "trailer" being used. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><tt>'''Epsilon'''</tt></span>]]''' '''[[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 16:47, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
I see no conflict between that and Scrooge's comment that
:I see no conflict between that and Scrooge's comment that
:''some'' trailers should probably be deemed valid sources
::''some'' trailers should probably be deemed valid sources
If by "trailers", we interpret him to mean "things currently considered trailers by this wiki". [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:56, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
:If by "trailers", we interpret him to mean "things currently considered trailers by this wiki". [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:56, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 
To clarify, the essence of a charity work here on the wiki is how it's most often ''used'': to legally distribute DWU content without obtaining a commercial license, most often from the BBC. It's for that reason that any charity work fails rule 2: it cannot be proven that licensing was obtained, because licensing was not necessary. They all swim in that same sea, and it would not be feasible to pick apart the exceptions.
 
In this case, the main driving force is rule 4. For the series producer to definitively state she did not intend to release these as genuine DWU stories — and for them to be referred to as fan works — right away prevents us from covering these individually. No amount of debating can get the Fan Gallery in general up over that wall. The details of what details can go where, and what to do with the one story that does appear to have licensing, remain to be discussed by those with an interest. Does the [[Fan Gallery]] merit a page, or should it be a brief section in ''[[Doctor Who: Lockdown!]]''? One thing I can settle is that these pages will be deleted per [[T:NO FANFIC]].
 
Whether there's wiggle room for one story that's licensed remains to be decided, as that is its own discussion. Thank you all for your involvement in this one.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 01:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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