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I have reverted the edits made by [[user:41.133.47.166]] to this page and [[Magnus]], [[The War Games]] and [[the Master]]. Several months ago this user tried to make his point on several talk pages, but failed to provide convincing evidence per this wiki's rules. I reverted the edits and suggested he try the forums; as he did not do so, I've reverted his edits again. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:19, January 29, 2014 (UTC) | I have reverted the edits made by [[user:41.133.47.166]] to this page and [[Magnus]], [[The War Games]] and [[the Master]]. Several months ago this user tried to make his point on several talk pages, but failed to provide convincing evidence per this wiki's rules. I reverted the edits and suggested he try the forums; as he did not do so, I've reverted his edits again. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:19, January 29, 2014 (UTC) | ||
== Connection with the Master in Timewyrm: Exodus == | |||
Currently this page claims that Terrance Dicks would often use the phrase “Tall, dark and satanically handsome” to describe the Roger Delgado incarnation of the Master in his Target Novelisations, and that this is evidence of a more explicit connection between the two characters. | |||
But I’ve searched through copies of all the Target Novelisations featuring the Delgado Master and I can’t find this phrase or any variation of it used once. Although in almost all of these novelisations Delgado is described as having a “sallow face”, “pointed beard”, and “deep burning eyes” which isn’t particularly close to the phrase used in Timewyrm: Exodus. If someone could point me to an example of Dicks describing Delgado as “Tall, dark and satanically handsome” or any variation of that, I’ll be happy enough with that but I just don’t think he ever did. | |||
Furthermore, when taken at face value and knowing that the phrase doesn’t appear to crop up in any novelisations I can’t really say that Timewyrm: Exodus actually does draw any clear connection between The War Chief and the Master. | |||
The end scene features the War Chief engulfed in flames, with Ace seeing him appear “Young, tall, dark and satanically handsome” for a brief moment in the flames. So what this page would currently be implying is that Ace witnesses the War Chief regenerating into Roger Delgado. | |||
But the novel so far has gone to great lengths to make it clear to the reader that the War Chief can’t regenerate due to his aborted regeneration. To the extent that he tries to steal the Doctor’s body to survive. So it would seem strange to make such a point of the War Chief’s inability to regenerate throughout the novel only for it to amount to nothing in the end, | |||
Additionally, the Doctor describes the Edward Brayshaw incarnation of the War Chief as having been “Tall, dark and handsome” earlier in the book. So does it not make considerable sense that the “tall, dark and satanically handsome” man we see at the end of the book is intended to be Edward Brayshaw, rather than Roger Delgado? | |||
I just feel as though the paragraph as it currently stands is misleading. Again as I say because it draws a direct connection between The War Chief and The Master in this novel as though Dicks had intentionally suggested they were the same character in this particular novel. In reality, the only thing supporting this idea was that Dicks had supposedly used the same “satanically handsome” phrase to describe Delgado in earlier Target books, but as far as I can tell he did no such thing. Therefore the page should be changed. Timewyrm: Exodus only really builds off of continuity directly from the War Games and doesn’t really draw inspiration from anywhere else. I’m not trying to suggest that the book considers the two separate characters, just that it doesn’t actually do anything to draw a connection between the two, unlike say the Target Novelisation of Terror of the Autons. [[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:55, 7 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
