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Actually I just realised something. This trivia point definitely CAN be removed. Flight to Infinity is already a stretch since as I said they definitely don't act as if Tegan's departure is recent, as is Castrovalva to Doomsday since the Fifth Doctor's new personality only even stabilises in the very last scene of Castrovalva yet they seem pretty well used to it by Doomsday. But, I'm literally watching Warriors' Gate RN and there are two things actively suggesting at least one "missing" E-Space adventure. The first is Romana changing clothes. Sure, she could have done that while the TARDIS was in flight. There's no in-universe reason she couldn't have done that. But, back in the real world, one must remember how rarely characters changed outfits in this era. So having a character does so does seem like authorial intent was to suggest a missing adventure. Additionally, the Doctor is still focused on getting Adric back to Alzarius at the end of Decay, but in Gate, as I already mentioned but the implication neglected to dawn on me, he plans to take him with them back to N-Space all of a sudden. These two facts combined are evidence enough for an intended missing E-Space adventure that I shall now remove this trivia point from both here and the Leisure Hive article. Two of the so-called "gaps" have evidence putting them into severe doubt, and one more has evidence almost totally disproving it. I think that's enough to conclude that this is factually wrong, and cannot reasonably be concluded either in-universe or out. If I am missing some line or something that suggests otherwise an editor may put this back if they can back such a decision up, but for now... no. Bye bye. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC) | Actually I just realised something. This trivia point definitely CAN be removed. Flight to Infinity is already a stretch since as I said they definitely don't act as if Tegan's departure is recent, as is Castrovalva to Doomsday since the Fifth Doctor's new personality only even stabilises in the very last scene of Castrovalva yet they seem pretty well used to it by Doomsday. But, I'm literally watching Warriors' Gate RN and there are two things actively suggesting at least one "missing" E-Space adventure. The first is Romana changing clothes. Sure, she could have done that while the TARDIS was in flight. There's no in-universe reason she couldn't have done that. But, back in the real world, one must remember how rarely characters changed outfits in this era. So having a character does so does seem like authorial intent was to suggest a missing adventure. Additionally, the Doctor is still focused on getting Adric back to Alzarius at the end of Decay, but in Gate, as I already mentioned but the implication neglected to dawn on me, he plans to take him with them back to N-Space all of a sudden. These two facts combined are evidence enough for an intended missing E-Space adventure that I shall now remove this trivia point from both here and the Leisure Hive article. Two of the so-called "gaps" have evidence putting them into severe doubt, and one more has evidence almost totally disproving it. I think that's enough to conclude that this is factually wrong, and cannot reasonably be concluded either in-universe or out. If I am missing some line or something that suggests otherwise an editor may put this back if they can back such a decision up, but for now... no. Bye bye. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
OK, OK, last point I promise. Technically Romana is wearing a different outfit in State of Decay to Full Circle and Full Circle to Meglos (but not Meglos to Leisure Hive, interestingly enough, at least at first), so it seems costume changes aren't as rare as I remembered. HOWEVER, I think in those cases we can fairly assume she DID literally change clothes and nothing else since we have on-screen evidence AGAINST a gap. But in the face of no other evidence, the costume change combined with the Doctor's change in attitude about getting Adric back to Alzarius is enough of a doubt to make that trivia point at the very least dubious if not fully debunked IMO. | |||
alised something. This trivia point definitely CAN be removed. Flight to Infinity is already a stretch since as I said they definitely don't act as if Tegan's departure is recent, as is Castrovalva to Doomsday since the Fifth Doctor's new personality only even stabilises in the very last scene of Castrovalva yet they seem pretty well used to it by Doomsday. But, I'm literally watching Warriors' Gate RN and there are two things actively suggesting at least one "missing" E-Space adventure. The first is Romana changing clothes. Sure, she could have done that while the TARDIS was in flight. There's no in-universe reason she couldn't have done that. But, back in the real world, one must remember how rarely characters changed outfits in this era. So having a character does so does seem like authorial intent was to suggest a missing adventure. Additionally, the Doctor is still focused on getting Adric back to Alzarius at the end of Decay, but in Gate, as I already mentioned but the implication neglected to dawn on me, he plans to take him with them back to N-Space all of a sudden. These two facts combined are evidence enough for an intended missing E-Space adventure that I shall now remove this trivia point from both here and the Leisure Hive article. Two of the so-called "gaps" have evidence putting them into severe doubt, and one more has evidence almost totally disproving it. I think that's enough to conclude that this is factually wrong, and cannot reasonably be concluded either in-universe or out. If I am missing some line or something that suggests otherwise an editor may put this back if they can back such a decision up, but for now... no. Bye bye. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
OK, OK, last point I promise. Technically alised something. This trivia point definitely CAN be removed. Flight to Infinity is already a stretch since as I said they definitely don't act as if Tegan's departure is recent, as is Castrovalva to Doomsday since the Fifth Doctor's new personality only even stabilises in the very last scene of Castrovalva yet they seem pretty well used to it by Doomsday. But, I'm literally watching Warriors' Gate RN and there are two things actively suggesting at least one "missing" E-Space adventure. The first is Romana changing clothes. Sure, she could have done that while the TARDIS was in flight. There's no in-universe reason she couldn't have done that. But, back in the real world, one must remember how rarely characters changed outfits in this era. So having a character does so does seem like authorial intent was to suggest a missing adventure. Additionally, the Doctor is still focused on getting Adric back to Alzarius at the end of Decay, but in Gate, as I already mentioned but the implication neglected to dawn on me, he plans to take him with them back to N-Space all of a sudden. These two facts combined are evidence enough for an intended missing E-Space adventure that I shall now remove this trivia point from both here and the Leisure Hive article. Two of the so-called "gaps" have evidence putting them into severe doubt, and one more has evidence almost totally disproving it. I think that's enough to conclude that this is factually wrong, and cannot reasonably be concluded either in-universe or out. If I am missing some line or something that suggests otherwise an editor may put this back if they can back such a decision up, but for now... no. Bye bye. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
OK, OK, last point I promise. Technically Romana is wearing a different outfit in State of Decay to Full Circle and Full Circle to Meglos (but not Meglos to Leisure Hive, interestingly enough, at least at first), so it seems costume changes aren't as rare as I remembered. HOWEVER, I think in those cases we can fairly assume she DID literally change clothes and nothing else since we have on-screen evidence AGAINST a gap. But in the face of no other evidence, the costume change combined with the Doctor's change in attitude about getting Adric back to Alzarius is enough of a doubt to make that trivia point at the very least dubious if not fully debunked IMO. | |||
alised something. This trivia point definitely CAN be removed. Flight to Infinity is already a stretch since as I said they definitely don't act as if Tegan's departure is recent, as is Castrovalva to Doomsday since the Fifth Doctor's new personality only even stabilises in the very last scene of Castrovalva yet they seem pretty well used to it by Doomsday. But, I'm literally watching Warriors' Gate RN and there are two things actively suggesting at least one "missing" E-Space adventure. The first is Romana changing clothes. Sure, she could have done that while the TARDIS was in flight. There's no in-universe reason she couldn't have done that. But, back in the real world, one must remember how rarely characters changed outfits in this era. So having a character does so does seem like authorial intent was to suggest a missing adventure. Additionally, the Doctor is still focused on getting Adric back to Alzarius at the end of Decay, but in Gate, as I already mentioned but the implication neglected to dawn on me, he plans to take him with them back to N-Space all of a sudden. These two facts combined are evidence enough for an intended missing E-Space adventure that I shall now remove this trivia point from both here and the Leisure Hive article. Two of the so-called "gaps" have evidence putting them into severe doubt, and one more has evidence almost totally disproving it. I think that's enough to conclude that this is factually wrong, and cannot reasonably be concluded either in-universe or out. If I am missing some line or something that suggests otherwise an editor may put this back if they can back such a decision up, but for now... no. Bye bye. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
OK, OK, last point I promise. Technically Romana is wearing a different outfit in State of Decay to Full Circle and Full Circle to Meglos (but not Meglos to Leisure Hive, interestingly enough, at least at first), so it seems costume changes aren't as rare as I remembered. HOWEVER, I think in those cases we can fairly assume she DID literally change clothes and nothing else since we have on-screen evidence AGAINST a gap. But in the face of no other evidence, the costume change combined with the Doctor's change in attitude about getting Adric back to Alzarius is enough of a doubt to make that trivia point at the very least dubious if not fully debunked IMO. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
