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== Dimensions in Time proposal == | == Dimensions in Time proposal == | ||
Hey, just saw your ''Dimensions in Time'' proposal and I'm not sure I grasp what you intend this thread to be. Obviously now that it's valid, the ''[[First Frontier (novel)|First Frontier]]'' connection can be Wikified as "one account" like any other valid source that says this about another valid source — in much the same way that the ''Conundrum'' and ''Land of Happy Endings'' interpretations are listed at [[John Who]] and [[Gillian Who]]. We don't need a thread for this! As I understood it, the caveat about further threads to clarify "the nature of stories' validity" after a Rule 4 By Proxy ruling would just be for people who want to argue that no Proxy was necessary because the original story passed Rule 4 all along and its invalidity was incorrect in the first place; but there's no need for a new thread that's just about a ''different'' proxy-avenue not mentioned in the original thread. Is there something else that I'm missing? [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 23:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC) | Hey, just saw your ''Dimensions in Time'' proposal and I'm not sure I grasp what you intend this thread to be. Obviously now that it's valid, the ''[[First Frontier (novel)|First Frontier]]'' connection can be Wikified as "one account" like any other valid source that says this about another valid source — in much the same way that the ''Conundrum'' and ''Land of Happy Endings'' interpretations are listed at [[John Who]] and [[Gillian Who]]. We don't need a thread for this! As I understood it, the caveat about further threads to clarify "the nature of stories' validity" after a Rule 4 By Proxy ruling would just be for people who want to argue that no Proxy was necessary because the original story passed Rule 4 all along and its invalidity was incorrect in the first place; but there's no need for a new thread that's just about a ''different'' proxy-avenue not mentioned in the original thread. Is there something else that I'm missing? [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 23:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
: Ah. I get where you're coming from, but actually, in such cases we only cover the later retcon as "one account" — again, see [[John Who]] and [[Gillian Who]], claimed in ''Land of Happy Endings'' to be a dream and in ''Conundrum'' to be Land of Fiction constructs. (You could also compare this to retroactive claims that the Doctor saying he was half-human was a lie, or that it wasn't really Romana in ''Destiny of the Daleks''.) ''[[Meet the Fam! (comic story)|Meet the Fam!]]'' is different because — as far as we can tell — it was always the intent that it would be revealed as Just A Dream; but if we had reason to think otherwise, we would cover it primarily as real events, and only present its dream-ness as an "alternative account". This goes double when we have even ''more'', later sources asserting that the events really happened, which, in the case of ''DiT'', we do via ''[[Storm in a Tikka (short story)|Storm in a Tikka]]'' and, for that matter, ''[[Rescue (short story)|Rescue]]''. | |||
: But either way, this seems like a matter for the talk page more than something which needs to take up a slot in the Temp Forums. I'd advise you to retract the proposal. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 00:32, 26 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
