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::Ahh! I misunderstood, since I did not and would not use the words "counterintuitive" or "weird", and I'll note that you've neatly elided my analysis of the informational content in the title options. But fine. If that's the extent of your response – "it does clearly suck, but our wiki has always clearly sucked, so there's no reason for us to make it suck less" – well, I'll trust other participants to decide which is more convincing. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 21:39, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
::Ahh! I misunderstood, since I did not and would not use the words "counterintuitive" or "weird", and I'll note that you've neatly elided my analysis of the informational content in the title options. But fine. If that's the extent of your response – "it does clearly suck, but our wiki has always clearly sucked, so there's no reason for us to make it suck less" – well, I'll trust other participants to decide which is more convincing. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 21:39, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
::Well I think that approach is backwards. You're basically never going to see the raw text "Sabbath (Movers)" divorced from any context except when searching for Sabbath and at said page, so the actual issue is whether or not you find Sabbath at any one particular location. (I can't imagine how it would be an issue on the page itself, you have all of the information there on the page - clearly this has all of the information that could be conveyed.)
::So I just don't think the issue of informational content is distinct from that of it being intuitive from a search perspective. As for the idea that my response is "our dabbing practices have always sucked", I mean, it's more that there's always some degree of arbitrariness to them. I don't think we have compelling reason to move away from a more consistent system to a less consistent system when I think it hurts wikification slightly and gives credence to the same reasons that Czech used to deny the page names of [[Odessa Smith]] and [[Nova Osgood]]. I think we should be ''very'' skeptical of any reasoning that comes close to suggesting that page names should be what they're most linked at or most likely to be looked for. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:01, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
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