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What I like to do when a suggestion worries me is to try to find a mutually aggreeable middle ground. For instance, in this case, maybe the rule should be that (a) we always prioritize proper names over descriptive ones, and (b) we only add descriptions to proper names when those are universally used and/or especially helpful for disambiguation or clarity. This would indicate that [[Odessa Smith]] is better than [[Mickey Smith's mother]] and that [[Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart]] is better than [[the Brigadier]], while also allowing us to use [[Queen Victoria]] and [[Brian the Ood]] etc. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 18:10, 10 June 2023 (UTC) | What I like to do when a suggestion worries me is to try to find a mutually aggreeable middle ground. For instance, in this case, maybe the rule should be that (a) we always prioritize proper names over descriptive ones, and (b) we only add descriptions to proper names when those are universally used and/or especially helpful for disambiguation or clarity. This would indicate that [[Odessa Smith]] is better than [[Mickey Smith's mother]] and that [[Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart]] is better than [[the Brigadier]], while also allowing us to use [[Queen Victoria]] and [[Brian the Ood]] etc. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 18:10, 10 June 2023 (UTC) | ||
:Well, no, Nate, it's not like that. You were bringing up the idea that the page title with this dab term lacked ''informational content'', and my response is that you would never see it in a context in which this issue mattered, you'd only ever see it while searching for the page. See, specifically: | |||
::So I just don't think the issue of informational content is distinct from that of it being intuitive from a search perspective. | |||
:I agree that it's not 100% ideal for search. But my response to it is the same as it ever was. This has always been the case. It ''will'' always be the case to some extent. And redirects help with the issue and are allowed already. | |||
:(On the side note of ignore all rules, I have absolutely no issue with a handful of cases that are discussed individually that break rules. Where the problem emerges is when there are two rules that are contradictory ''in their motivating principles'', or that a rule is clearly only being applied when users feel like it - the rule is "opt in" rather than "opt out". Moreover, of course, [[T:EVIL TWIN]], and just a note that wikipedia has some really weird philosophical governance ideas.) | |||
:This rule you're proposing is much too vague. What does "especially helpful" mean here? Is the issue with Sabbath ''just'' that people don't think of him as "the Sabbath from Movers"? Or would this apply to ''every'' character over a story based dab term, if they also have a descriptive title/epithet/etc? Either position seems unpalatable, as the latter is a massive change that makes the ranks of Faction Paradox deeply split on whether they have their title or not, and the former seems, well, arbitrary. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
