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:: My personal view is that we should split the two segments — and do the same with every other ''Loose Ends''. They're clearly different stories every time, albeit with a shared theme. There's no narrative connections between them. They're different stories released under an umbrella title; the fact that one of the stories in this one takes place in a completely different fictional universe from the other simply underlines it, but IMO we really should have been splitting them all along. However, all that is a discussion which I still think should be happening at [[Talk:Loose Ends 5: Ian Memoriam (short story)]], or indeed [[Talk:Loose Ends]]. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:46, 19 July 2024 (UTC) | :: My personal view is that we should split the two segments — and do the same with every other ''Loose Ends''. They're clearly different stories every time, albeit with a shared theme. There's no narrative connections between them. They're different stories released under an umbrella title; the fact that one of the stories in this one takes place in a completely different fictional universe from the other simply underlines it, but IMO we really should have been splitting them all along. However, all that is a discussion which I still think should be happening at [[Talk:Loose Ends 5: Ian Memoriam (short story)]], or indeed [[Talk:Loose Ends]]. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:46, 19 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
::: Honestly, no. That is frankly a terrible idea. These stories are not mini-anthologies of three independent and totally different works. They're one unified work with a shared theme every instalment. The DWM contents page does not list each part as a different feature. | |||
::: What we ''need'' to do is have this story have the bit about ''AAIS&T'' be invalid. It is not meant to be set in the DWU, there is no R4BP case — Harry's monologue recounts the famous Tom Baker photoshoot outside the television centre. It's basically a really short, prose docudrama. | |||
::: And, to answer how we can ''possbily'' have a story be both valid and invalid... we already do that with this series. One third of these stories is already invalid. The ''The Unexplained'' sections don't pass rule one, thus are invalid. Yet they're still part of the story! | |||
::: Yes, it's crude how they're not given their own section on each respective story page, but they're still on the page. | |||
::: Before this instalment, nobody was clamouring for these stories to be split up into three separate pages. So it is frankly absurd that we can live with a page covering both valid and invalid information if the invalid information doesn't pass rule one, but we can't live with it if the invalid section doesn't pass rule four. | |||
::: In short, as we already cover 1/3 of every ''Loose Ends'' instalment as invalid, we can manage to cover ''Loose Ends 5: Ian Memoriam'' as 2/3rds invalid. We should thrash out a subclause to [[T:VS]] to allow this to be acceptable, and then we can just put {{tlx|invalid}} tags into each respective invalid page of the story page. Splitting each instalment is unintuitive, not intended by the writers, and is just a case of us not changing our rules to accommodate the works we cover, but changing the works we cover to fit into our rules. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 17:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
