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I agree with Gallifrey102. Whenever the Doctor would go back to Gallifrey in the classic series, Time Lords would be amazed that a type-40 still existed, and the TARDIS herself said that she was a museum piece when the Doctor was young. They ever talked about the power source behind the TARDIS in the classic series, and it is possible that most people simply didn't know that it was different from modern TARDISes. If all TARDISes had a link to the eye, then why the elaborate plot of assassinating the Lord President. Why wouldn't the Master just use the eye in his own TARDIS. Just because the power source has been upgraded doesn't mean that the controls have damatically changed, and Romana did have to read the manual. At one point didn't she even mention how flying archaic ships wasn't a required course at the academy? Besides, just beccause the put the type-40s out of service only 700 years ago doesn't mean that they weren't commissioned 6500 years ago.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 04:35, August 19, 2011 (UTC) | I agree with Gallifrey102. Whenever the Doctor would go back to Gallifrey in the classic series, Time Lords would be amazed that a type-40 still existed, and the TARDIS herself said that she was a museum piece when the Doctor was young. They ever talked about the power source behind the TARDIS in the classic series, and it is possible that most people simply didn't know that it was different from modern TARDISes. If all TARDISes had a link to the eye, then why the elaborate plot of assassinating the Lord President. Why wouldn't the Master just use the eye in his own TARDIS. Just because the power source has been upgraded doesn't mean that the controls have damatically changed, and Romana did have to read the manual. At one point didn't she even mention how flying archaic ships wasn't a required course at the academy? Besides, just beccause the put the type-40s out of service only 700 years ago doesn't mean that they weren't commissioned 6500 years ago.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 04:35, August 19, 2011 (UTC) | ||
: Of course people were amazed that a type-40 still existed—they'd all been decommissioned centuries ago. If an 1860s ironclad showed up at Portsmouth, everyone would be amazed that it still existed, but that wouldn't mean it was from the original British fleet in the 9th century. --[[Special:Contributions/173.228.85.35|173.228.85.35]] 20:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC) | |||
This is why I suspect that the Eye in the Doctor's TARDIS (and possibly other TARDISes) was originally totally separate from the Eye on Gallifrey, most likely a much smaller, artificial singularity. Then, after TDA, when the prime Eye was rediscovered, all mini-Eyes on all TARDISes were linked up to it. [[Special:Contributions/82.2.136.93|82.2.136.93]] 15:11, August 19, 2011 (UTC) | This is why I suspect that the Eye in the Doctor's TARDIS (and possibly other TARDISes) was originally totally separate from the Eye on Gallifrey, most likely a much smaller, artificial singularity. Then, after TDA, when the prime Eye was rediscovered, all mini-Eyes on all TARDISes were linked up to it. [[Special:Contributions/82.2.136.93|82.2.136.93]] 15:11, August 19, 2011 (UTC) | ||
: But that would mean that all TARDISes _except the Doctor's_ had links to the Eye, which doesn't help at all, since it's the Doctor's that you're trying to explain. --[[Special:Contributions/173.228.85.35|173.228.85.35]] 20:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC) | |||
Hang on, if there are Eyes of Harmony inside all TARDISes, built along the same principles as the semi-mythical Eye that Rassilon brought to Gallifrey, then why does the Master need to find the prime Eye to regenerate himself in TDA? Why doesn't he use the Eye inside a TARDIS, which are much easier to get hold of? Even if a TARDIS Eye is smaller, I should think it would still be adequate to his needs. [[Special:Contributions/82.2.136.93|82.2.136.93]] 14:06, August 21, 2011 (UTC) | Hang on, if there are Eyes of Harmony inside all TARDISes, built along the same principles as the semi-mythical Eye that Rassilon brought to Gallifrey, then why does the Master need to find the prime Eye to regenerate himself in TDA? Why doesn't he use the Eye inside a TARDIS, which are much easier to get hold of? Even if a TARDIS Eye is smaller, I should think it would still be adequate to his needs. [[Special:Contributions/82.2.136.93|82.2.136.93]] 14:06, August 21, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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The fact that they eye was considered a myth in the classic series makes it more complicated than that though. It workds though if we assume that the eye in the TARDIS is a link to the eye on Gallifrey, and theat link exits in all Type 40s and earlier models, but more modern TARDISes have a more efficient power source. If the Doctor had stolen a newer TARDIS he wouldn't have to power up from rifts, but because he has an old type 40 and the eye on Gallifrey is destroyed, he now has to power up oon rifts. Of course, since RTD now claims that when the Doctor sealed the cracks he also sealed the rifts, that leaves the question as to how he is powering it up now.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 00:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC) | The fact that they eye was considered a myth in the classic series makes it more complicated than that though. It workds though if we assume that the eye in the TARDIS is a link to the eye on Gallifrey, and theat link exits in all Type 40s and earlier models, but more modern TARDISes have a more efficient power source. If the Doctor had stolen a newer TARDIS he wouldn't have to power up from rifts, but because he has an old type 40 and the eye on Gallifrey is destroyed, he now has to power up oon rifts. Of course, since RTD now claims that when the Doctor sealed the cracks he also sealed the rifts, that leaves the question as to how he is powering it up now.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 00:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC) | ||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">Yes, you've just restated the inconsistency that already exists between TDA and TIoT in the classic series. And assuming that type 57s use a different power source doesn't help at all. The last Type 40s were being decomissioned a few centuries before TDA (when the Doctor stole his), which means they were being maintained until slightly before that, which means probably half the TARDIS technicians on Gallifrey had worked on one in their lifetime, which means nobody would think it was a myth.</p> | |||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">The only way you can reconcile that in-universe is to assume that they knew it was a link some power source, they just had no idea that power source was the legendary Eye of Harmony.</p> | |||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">PS, I already brought up the issue with the rifts being closed earlier on this page, but I think it's a separate issue, so if you want to talk about that, let's start another article. --[[Special:Contributions/173.228.85.35|173.228.85.35]] 06:39, August 22, 2011 (UTC)</p> | |||
