Talk:Rory Williams/Archive 2

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I don't know where you got 2010 from (maybe you meant 1996?), but as of the end of The Big Bang, Rory's does have much more memories than the Doctor. Also, please remember to sign all posts with ~~~~. Tardis1963 07:23, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ID tag's issue date is genuine due to face that Rory never existed and the Rory we know was always an auton. It would make since that his ID could've been issued in 1990 and that he has worked in the hospital ever since as he would never age. He would be sorta like Jack Harkness in some respects.Invictus152 07:57, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Not quite, the original Rory was a real human, and after his erasure and duplication, his soul was pulled into the Auton body, which then lasted the 1900 years, and then he got rebooted with the rest of the universe. Moffat's already stated the ID badge was a mistake during production. So, yeah, he's about 2000 years old technically. Which would be older than the Doctor, unless he's still lying about his age. - I. Am. Excalibur-117-^{(talk • contribs)} 11:26, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Having more memory equates to being older?!? When Rose became the Bad Wolf, she existed in all of time and space, so was Rose, at one point, infinity years old? Would you say the meta-crisis Tenth Doctor was born 900 years old? Do you get younger due to an amnesia? This is ludicrous.--203.168.176.42 07:53, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Having more memories don't equate to being older, just simply living a life does. Rory spent 2000 years guarding the Pandorica and remembers this at the end of the Big Bang, therefore Rory is 2000 years old. Rose gained all the knowledge of time and space from the time vortex, but didn't live through it all, so she isn't infinity years old. Meta-crisis Doctor didn't live for 900 years, he was simply born in Journey's End and retained all the memories of the Doctor, therefore he is barely a day old. Phobia27 11:29, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but keeping out of trouble -- although unsuccessfully -- is not a very full life. Boblipton 10:11, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

/Him and Amy?

gah it's just not meant to be... SURELY you'd go for the one who you've made cartoons of your whole life? Why does Rory have to get in the way of Amy and her "raggedy doctor", eh?81.141.161.91 01:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Dude, I couldn't have put it better myself! this is why i don't like rory's character so much. he keeps getting in the way!

A) sign your posts. B) she likes them both ( rory she marries and the doctor she likes) and C) he doesn't get in the way. the doc gets in the way of amy and rory! LOTS121Kara:) 18:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's probably a non-mutual thing; The Doctor loves Amy*, but he's not complaining too loudly because he -reluctantly- likes Rory (and to avoid any pedantic comments later on, I meant as a friend). Well, it's not the first time there's been a non-mutual companion-Doctor thing. Martha was crazy about The Doctor, but he was hung up on Rose. This is basically the same thing, only reversed.

• Don't believe me? Watch the end of 'Amy's Choice'. Look at The Doctor's face when he's not in the view of the happy couple. Then, look at The Doctor's reaction to the (reflected) Dream Lord's triumphant smirk.

58.106.7.197 10:17, April 14, 2011 (UTC)Ash Grim

In S5E3 Victory of the Daleks Amy doesn't remember the Daleks, could it be because she was in the town that time forgot? Mikedfontaine 05:05, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Rory Pond?

The latest issue of DWM (out April 7, 2011) identifies Rory as "Rory Pond" on the cover. Let the naming debate commence! 68.146.64.9 19:40, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if the official magazine says it, then it must be so. Someone change the name of this page immediately! The Nth Doctor 19:37, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

As with everything else of this nature on the wikia we have to wait till it happens in-universe before we change the name. So tomorrow at around 6:45 it will be changed. --Revan\Talk 19:41, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this is just an in-joke. I doubt that's his legal name.----Skittles the hog--Talk 19:51, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

This isn't even a mystery. In the episode "The Big Bang", and I'm going from memory here so I'm paraphrasing, the Doctor arrives at Amy and Rory's wedding and makes some comment about Amy now being Amy Williams, before correcting himself and saying it's probaby more likely to be Rory Pond, referring to the fact that Amy clearly wears the trousers in that relationship. Rory goes to argue before quickly realising that the Doctor is probably right and agreeing. But no, I'm sure it's not supposed to be his legal name, just a joke between the three of them. Phil2415 18:32, June 1, 2011 (UTC)Phil

Satyrnians

They did not take human form, they used perception filters to hide their true form and thus appeared human. Can somebody update the article to reflect that? Thanks! -- Rest In Peace Sarah Jane \ Talk to me! 14:12, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

"Stupid face" alias

in the second episode of series six, Amy reffered Rory as "stupid face", i think it should be added as an alias of him. --Batuhanicoz 22:11, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Amy also calls Rory "Stupid Face" in the Dr Who Adventure Game - The Gunpowder Plot. 86.141.157.69^{talk to me} 22:08, January 9, 2012 (UTC) CPC1

Amy Wasn't A Ganger

In the section of the article about Rory it states that after his honeymoon he returned to Earth with what he later discovered was a Ganger of Amy. I don't think is correct, and I think it's premature to try to integrate the Ganger storyline since we don't know how it's going to end yet.

I'm pretty certain that the moment when Amy was swapped for a Ganger was in the episode "Day Of The Moon" when she goes into a room in the desserted children's home by herself. She sees a photograph of herself, screams and then when Kenton runs to her she appears to be ok, although something has clearly happened. That was the moment when she was swapped.

Backing up this theory is the fact that just prior to this event, in the same episode, Amy told the Doctor that she was pregnant, but at the end of the episode she no longer is, clearly because by that point she has been switched for her non-pregnant Ganger. At the end of "The Almost People" we learn that the real Amy was pregnant all along.

Phil2415 18:30, June 1, 2011 (UTC)Phil

Should Pretty and Idiot really be in the Also Called?

I can understand "Pretty" but "Idiot" is just an adjective. I think they both should be removed as Pretty was only used in one episode, and Idiot is such a common word that to imply that it's another name for him means we should start adding every other insult a person has gotten. Adjectives are just what they are, descriptive, not names. Anyone else agree? Rawrgoaway 15:21, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm with you, Rawrgoaway. Boblipton 15:26, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think overall he has way too many nicknames. Even "The Nose" is a bit of a stretch but i understand that one. Still though, i think the only things that should be in the "Also Called" section are names that really get lots of use. Little jokes or insults shouldn't be added because then there are tons of nicknames that other characters should also have added. Rawrgoaway 16:14, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Rory sees through the doctor

I don't know how relevant it is to this article, but to me, a very important (yet subtle) aspect of Rory is that is seems completely impervious to the doctor's "charm". The first time he enters the TARDIS, instead of going through the usual "it's bigger on the inside" shocked routine, he simply states "oh, the interior is another dimension" (much to The Doctor's disappointment). Again, in Vampires of Venice, he easily gets The Doctor's modus operendi : making people trust him so much that they risk their lives for him (as already discused in Journey's End). There is something about Rory that makes The Doctor unable to "manipulate" him.

Merchillio 00:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Also in The_God_Complex Rory is the only one who is not affected by his believe in something. While Amy is shown to believe in the Doctor (to trust him without a doubt), Rory clearly hasn't that "problem". I think he trusts him, but I also think Rory is much more aware of how "different" and somewhat "dangerous" the doctor is. Like Merchillio said- he gets him, understands his methods.

XXRhaneXx ^{talk to me} 12:42, January 14, 2012 (UTC)XXRhaneXx

ID Badge

At the bottom of the article, on discussion of the ID badge, it says:

However, later episodes like The Pandorica Opens and The Big Bang proved that Moffat was telling the truth. The graphics on the ID page were simply erroneous.

In what sense is this proven? Here are the released details about 'The Wedding of River Song':

In Buckingham Senate, at 5.02pm, Holy Roman Emperor Winston Churchill calls for his Soothsayer to be fetched from the Tower. Greying, unkempt, older, tireder, but unmistakably – it’s the Doctor. “Tick tock goes the clock,” Winston tells him, “but they don’t, do they? The clocks never tick.” It’s always 5.02pm these days. All of history is happening at once. “What happened to time?” asks Winston. The answer, it seems, is a woman…

I apologise if I missed something. However, even if 'Amy's time' is shown to be the present, then couldn't the ID badge still be significant? If Churchill exists in the present, then couldn't the very first clue of what was going to happen (all time happening at once) be a man with a 1990 ID badge appearing in the twenty-first century?

Perhaps we should remove the final lines from the ID badge section until after the episode airs.210.49.167.47 16:02, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt Moffat knew what he was going to do with season 6 yet when The Eleventh Hour came out, and time clearly wasn't very badly damaged in The Eleventh Hour. If all of history was happenning at once, there would be more evidence than Rory's ID badge. Plus, we've seen Rory as a child in the 90s. Icecreamdif 05:57, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Given Moffat had a sequence in last season's finale that had been hidden in Flesh and Stone, and that this time happening at once may be related to Silence falling which he's clearly had some idea about since series 5, I don't see anything unreasonable in thinking he'd planned ahead. Besides, the point was never that time was badly danmaged in The Eleventh Hour, merely that there were some very small clues that it'd started. This wouldn't necessarily conflict at all with Rory being seen as a child in the 90s because if time's happening at once that type of thing may be quite natural (from Churchhill's perspective he probably saw the 90s). That said, at this point it's probably not worth changing.210.49.167.47 06:37, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Photos of Rory

It's not my topic of excellence, but some of the pictures of Rory are awful, out of focus (Rory being shot) or badly composed (Rory receiving a psychic message has his hand in front of his profile. Wouldn't we be better off with fewer bad pictures, even if they weren't replaced? Boblipton ^{talk to me} 22:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC)