User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Tales from the Tardis/@comment-188432-20130325173913/@comment-188432-20130413054800

Alright, let's say Spragg is giving us a choice. Why would we want to avail ourselves of a choice that muddies the waters? Is Vienna actually worth it? Is this series (which we don't even know will make it beyond a handful of stories) really worth the complication that will be caused by keeping it in?

If we ban it, then we can continue to say — for this is no new thing – that if the producers say it doesn't happen in the DWU and that it's not a DW spin-off‚ we won't cover it. If we ban it, then we can say that we're following the precedent previously set with Death's Head.

If we allow it, then we have to say that narrative must be considered in inclusion debates. And that's what we've — and I do think I include you in this — have been trying to weed out of the inclusion debate process. I just don't see how inclusion debates can function in future if we say, "Yeah, Big Finish gave very strong and really quite clear indication that they didn't view Vienna as part of the DWU from an out-of-universe perspective, but because they left this little, tiny crack open narratively, we're gonna go ahead and let it in."

I strongly feel that allowing Vienna in fundamentally breaks tardis:valid sources. If you can think of a way that it doesn't, I'm all ears.