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The two accounts I've read are here:
The two accounts I've read are here:
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=4757.0
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=4757.0
(EDIT: see replies #6 and #8)


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(EDIT: copy-pasting the relevant comment:
"I remember this episode on its original broadcast. It is the first time, when the Doctor opens the larger double inner TARDIS doors for Steven to leave, we see the smaller closed double outer police box doors, which Steven opens by pushing a bar, a bar similar to one you see on a fire door. Very unusual. Rather like the doors we see from the inside of the TARDIS today. When companions Ian Chesterton & Barbara Wright left, the series was never the same.")


Personally, that would be credible enough (considering the vestibule glimpsed in Claws of Axos and knowing the behind the scenes constructions plans of the pilot tardis as published by Radio Times) But I want to know if there is something more official about it (source book, In Vision, ...) before putting it in an article.[[User:RingoRoadagain|RingoRoadagain]] [[User talk:RingoRoadagain|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:07, December 12, 2017 (UTC)
Personally, that would be credible enough (considering the vestibule glimpsed in Claws of Axos and knowing the behind the scenes constructions plans of the pilot tardis as published by Radio Times) But I want to know if there is something more official about it (source book, In Vision, ...) before putting it in an article.[[User:RingoRoadagain|RingoRoadagain]] [[User talk:RingoRoadagain|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:07, December 12, 2017 (UTC)
:The only sources for the [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in-universe section of articles]] is the stories themselves. As for behind the scenes, I think your first source, as a message board, wouldn't be considered a valid source, and your second source is a video, which we cannot link to per [[Tardis:Video policy]]. In my opinion, these sources are word-of-mouth and not really official enough to use at sources. Thanks, [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:23, December 12, 2017 (UTC)
:The only sources for the [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in-universe section of articles]] is the stories themselves. As for behind the scenes, I think your first source, as a message board, wouldn't be considered a valid source, and your second source is a video, which we cannot link to per [[Tardis:Video policy]]. In my opinion, these sources are word-of-mouth and not really official enough to use at sources. Thanks, [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:23, December 12, 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry about the video, this was actually a comment under it saying roughly the same thing as the forum account but I don't think we can link to only the comment section anymore... To be clear this is not just behind the scenes stuff since this is what they allegedly saw when it was broadcast on TV: people accounts are the only to know what occured on-screen for wiped stories (is there even a precedent for things like that on the wiki ?). Even though I believe that they are saying the truth, I fully agree with you that my sources are not trustable enough for the wiki articles. However I would find it strange that nobody else ever mentionned it (in an interview or a DWM summary of the story for example): I began the discussion mostly to check if someone remember seeing it in a more official testimony.[[User:RingoRoadagain|RingoRoadagain]] [[User talk:RingoRoadagain|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:00, December 12, 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry about the video, this was actually a comment under it saying roughly the same thing as the forum account but I don't think we can link to only the comment section anymore... To be clear this is not just behind the scenes stuff since this is what they allegedly saw when it was broadcast on TV: people accounts are the only to know what occured on-screen for wiped stories (is there even a precedent for things like that on the wiki ?). Even though I believe that they are saying the truth, I fully agree with you that my sources are not trustable enough for the wiki articles. However I would find it strange that nobody else ever mentionned it (in an interview or a DWM summary of the story for example): I began the discussion mostly to check if someone remember seeing it in a more official testimony.[[User:RingoRoadagain|RingoRoadagain]] [[User talk:RingoRoadagain|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:00, December 12, 2017 (UTC)

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room between outer and inner tardis doors

Hello, I read two apparently unrelated sources from persons who saw the original broadcast:

Both state that during the scene at the end when Steven leaves the Doctor, there was a shot showing the inside of the police box right after the inner doors and pushing the outer doors from the inside.

The two accounts I've read are here: http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=4757.0 (EDIT: see replies #6 and #8)

<removed per Tardis:Video policy> (EDIT: copy-pasting the relevant comment: "I remember this episode on its original broadcast. It is the first time, when the Doctor opens the larger double inner TARDIS doors for Steven to leave, we see the smaller closed double outer police box doors, which Steven opens by pushing a bar, a bar similar to one you see on a fire door. Very unusual. Rather like the doors we see from the inside of the TARDIS today. When companions Ian Chesterton & Barbara Wright left, the series was never the same.")

Personally, that would be credible enough (considering the vestibule glimpsed in Claws of Axos and knowing the behind the scenes constructions plans of the pilot tardis as published by Radio Times) But I want to know if there is something more official about it (source book, In Vision, ...) before putting it in an article.RingoRoadagain 22:07, December 12, 2017 (UTC)

The only sources for the in-universe section of articles is the stories themselves. As for behind the scenes, I think your first source, as a message board, wouldn't be considered a valid source, and your second source is a video, which we cannot link to per Tardis:Video policy. In my opinion, these sources are word-of-mouth and not really official enough to use at sources. Thanks, Shambala108 22:23, December 12, 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about the video, this was actually a comment under it saying roughly the same thing as the forum account but I don't think we can link to only the comment section anymore... To be clear this is not just behind the scenes stuff since this is what they allegedly saw when it was broadcast on TV: people accounts are the only to know what occured on-screen for wiped stories (is there even a precedent for things like that on the wiki ?). Even though I believe that they are saying the truth, I fully agree with you that my sources are not trustable enough for the wiki articles. However I would find it strange that nobody else ever mentionned it (in an interview or a DWM summary of the story for example): I began the discussion mostly to check if someone remember seeing it in a more official testimony.RingoRoadagain 23:00, December 12, 2017 (UTC)