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== Page creation mock-up ==
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According to [[T:SPOIL]], this page can now be created. I think it would be useful to create it now, so that editors can add information during and immediately after broadcast. I made a mock-up for said page creation — it can be found [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside/Sandbox/The Bells of Saint John (TV story)|here]]. Can an admin please create this?<br>--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 17:39, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Code Scene ==
 
If anyone wants to examine the stuff from the code scene at the beginning, I think I got all of the stuff copied down that wasn't encrypted (gibberish)...maybe there's something in it.
Anyways, it's here for whoever wants it.  Maybe I'll go frame-by-frame later.  [http://pastebin.com/3CimLPep]--[[User:Padenton|Padenton]] [[User talk:Padenton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:41, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
::There was definitely more than that throughout the episode, I saw a few flashes of "msie", meaning whatever code was used in the episode was meant for use with Microsoft Internet Explorer. '''<font color=#609000>d</font> [[User:Witoki|<font color=#609000>●</font>]][[User_talk:Witoki|<font color=#FF6090><small>●</small></font>]][[Special:Contributions/Witoki|<font color=#6090FF><small><small>●</small></small></font>]]''' 02:28, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Year ==
 
Is there anything onscreen that actually places this in 2013, rather than "ambiguous near future with 2013 vehicles, fashions and skyline"? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 22:38, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
:Yeah, the official episode synopsis as used on iPlayer. "The search for Clara brings the Doctor to London, 2013, where something deadly is waiting in the Wi-Fi." [http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01rryzz/Doctor_Who_Series_7_Part_2_The_Bells_of_Saint_John/] {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|00:25,31/3/2013}}
 
== Mysterious Woman ==
 
I think some sort of note should be given that a mysterious woman (River?) gave Clara the number to the TARDIS.  She said the number was the best help line out there, in the universe.
: We can't say for sure right now, we have nothing proving who the woman was.  Additionally, the "phone box phone" outright ''doesn't work'' ([[TV]]: ''[[The Empty Child]]''), so there being a number at all is rather alarming. '''<font color=#609000>d</font> [[User:Witoki|<font color=#609000>●</font>]][[User_talk:Witoki|<font color=#FF6090><small>●</small></font>]][[Special:Contributions/Witoki|<font color=#6090FF><small><small>●</small></small></font>]]''' 02:26, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
:: I find it quite reasonable to think that the TARDIS could ring the box herself if she wanted too. --[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:08, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Amelia's book ==
 
I do think Clara's statement is "pun intended": I mean the one where the boy says he is now on chapter 10 and she answers "Eleven's the best!". I am not sure where this note should be inserted but do you think this is a naive remark? --[[User:Tito Plauto|Tito Plauto]] [[User talk:Tito Plauto|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:28, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
: The full statement is "Eleven in the best. You'll be crying your eyes out." And yes, I dis notice the in-joke. I'd put it under References if I was you. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 17:10, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Wi-Fi, Spoonheads and Data Ghosts ==
 
Did anyone else feel that this episode strongly echoed The Library storyline. The whole "data ghosts in the wi-fi" felt really familiar. Also the fact that the servers heads are spoon-like and their heads rotate all the way round , also the fact they look like people that the person looking at them can relate to; very much like the courtesy nodes in The Library.
Anyone else?
--[[User:Invictus152|Invictus152]] [[User talk:Invictus152|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:31, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
::Absolutely.  It seemed vaguely similar at first, but the physical shape of the Spoonheads really did it for me.  Well, if there were ever to be an inspiration for the universe's biggest library, why not [[The Great Intelligence]]? '''<font color=#609000>d</font> [[User:Witoki|<font color=#609000>●</font>]][[User_talk:Witoki|<font color=#FF6090><small>●</small></font>]][[Special:Contributions/Witoki|<font color=#6090FF><small><small>●</small></small></font>]]''' 02:29, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
:I wondered if perhaps the downloading human mind tech in TBoSJ is the start of research that will lead to the neural relays in the 51st Century. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:14, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Drink spilling Error ==
 
Actually, I don't like having the unspilled drink as an "error". I've performed an ethnic dance called Binasuan, and it's quite possible, if somewhat unlikely, that she could have done all of those movements without necessarily spilling her drink.--[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:11, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
==Whose mother?==
 
When I first watched this episode, I thought that Clara stayed with the family because ''her'' mother died, but on the wiki it stated ''their'' mother, so I assumed I misheard. After watching ''The Rings'', however, I am wondering if I did hear correctly, but it was recorded wrong on the wiki.
 
Which mother is that died? Clara's, or both?
[[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:23, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
:Ellie died and the Maitland kids' mother died. I think she said something about repaying the favor, so I wonder if their mom helped her after her mother died, but that's only speculation. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:55, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Who is Saint John ==
is the bells of saint john possibly a reference to the Doctors alias of "John Smith" so the bells are "the bells of saint john (smith)?
[[User:Roi Simcha|Roi Simcha]] [[User talk:Roi Simcha|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:05, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
Saint John refers to the "St Johns Ambulance" sticker that is on front of the TARDIS, next to the phone that rings. Therefore the title is referencing "The (phone) Bells of Saint John('s Ambulance)"
 
Plus, I'm sure this is a topic for the forums, not the talk page?
[[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:08, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
ah, a apologyze. at some point i will figure this all out, until then i will move this and try to do better.
[[User:Roi Simcha|Roi Simcha]] [[User talk:Roi Simcha|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:10, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

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