Talk:Timeless Child

Incarnations of the Child

Given that there is (as yet) no definite point where we can say this being stops being "the Timeless Child" and starts being "The Doctor", I believe it makes sense to make pages for individual incarnations of the Child. Of course this page should remain for the general concept; but, for instance, for the child we've seen in flashbacks throughout the series, Timeless Child (Spyfall) might make sense. CoT ? 21:32, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

Since we know nothing about them, would it not make more sense to group them together like The Doctor (The Brain of Morbius)? So like The Doctor (The Timeless Children).--TheOneTrueJack ☎ 21:45, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

I agree with OneTrueJack that we should group them. But I think we should keep the name as is: "the timeless child" is the name given to these incarnations during the episodes and is currently still how they are the most commonly known. (T:CHAR NAMES).RingoRoadagain ☎ 01:29, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

This page should stay as the only page for the Timeless Child as making more is just all the more confusing given that they only appear in 1-second glimpses apart from the dark-skinned little girl from the visions and the dark-skinned young boy that was recruited to the Division, and "The Doctor (The Timeless Children)" is not ideal either as they are not "the Doctor" yet. This one page is enough. However I'd suggest a template like "Docpic" that shifts between various images, showing each incarnation of the Timeless Child. --DCLM ☎ 12:53, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

Merging

Shouldn't this just be put into the Doctor's page? The Doctor and the Timeless Child are the same person, after all. Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎ 15:02, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

That’s pretty confusing though, and would mean that we’d also have to merge the Morbius Doctors too. I think we should keep the Morbius Doctors and the Timeless Child incarnations in their separate pages (grouped between the two) and have them listed as alternative version of the Doctor in each Doctor’s infobox (similar to the Curator and Meta-Crisis). Icyneo1 ☎ 15:32, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah — it’s useful to have a separate page for them in the same way that we have a separate page for The Other, despite the numerous sources that suggest the Doctor and the Other are the same person. – N8 (☎/👁️) 15:34, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

This case is exactly the same with Jo Martin's Doctor, Contents Doctor and so many other pages containing "the Doctor", which are essentially the main "The Doctor". --DCLM ☎ 12:59, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

And indeed, we don't simply merge the Second Doctor's page into the page for the Doctor.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 19:42, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

Should the contents of this page's infobox be added to The Doctor? DarkerBit ☎ 12:47, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

This has already been discussed heavily, and the conclusion was no, because the Timeless Child essentially is another stage of their life LONG before they became the Doctor. --DCLM ☎ 12:55, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

Shifting infobox image

I was wondering whether we should have a template show up in the infobox that shifts the image between all the seven incarnations that we see, the same way that we have "Docpic" on the page for the Doctor, showing all the different incarnations from Hartnell to (currently) Whittaker? --DCLM ☎ 08:47, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

The first thing required would be specially uploaded images for each, at exactly 400 x 225 px.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 10:55, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

• 2.jpg

  TC - 2nd incarnation

• Three.jpg

  TC - 3rd incarnation

• 4.jpg

  TC - 4th incarntion

• 5.jpg

  TC - 5th incanation

• 6.jpg

  TC - 6th incarnation

• 7.jpg

  TC - 7th incarnation

Here's the best I can do. Maybe someone can do better, but I fear some are a write-off because they only appear briefly in the shot at one angle. I think the last incarnation is seen later on, so there may be a better shot of him. --TheOneTrueJack ☎ 01:07, March 7, 2020 (UTC)

Confused information

I believe it makes hard to make pages for individual incarnations of the Child.

Of course this page should remain for the general concept;

for instance, for the child we've seen in flashbacks throughout the series,

TheDaleks100 ☎ 13:12, March 6, 2020 (UTC)TheDaleks100TheDaleks100 ☎ 13:12, March 6, 2020 (UTC)