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== "Species and Gender" Subheadings ==
== "Species and Gender" Subheadings ==


The name is "Species and Gender" and it is ordered that way, but the subheadings only had "Humans" and "Non-humans", even though that goes against what the heading says and how it's actually laid out. It has a clear point in the text where it goes from talking about female humans to male humans - how does it not make sense to put a subheading there to clearly differentiate between the parts and make it easy to locate each? I changed it to have the subheadings "Female Humans" and "Male Humans" with the edit summary: "Made a subheading distinction between female humans and male humans, as it is ordered that way, and the heading implies there should be. It frankly makes no sense to me that it wouldn't be and I found the lack unnecessary confusing." The person who undid it said: "Unnecessary and actually more confusing." They then said: "The edit is unnecessary and actually more confusing. The section titled "female humans" only refers to "humans", for instance." Although it starts with talking about just humans, it quickly moves on to specifically females, and don't think it actually mentions any males (I could be wrong). It may be worth discussing whether the "Female Humans" subheading should be moved to below the first paragraph. This person obviously feels it would be more confusing to do it the way I have proposed (both "Female Humans" and "Male Humans" subheadings), but I want to hear what other people think. I also wanted to move this discussion to the talk page rather than keep undoing each other's edits.
The name is "Species and Gender" and it is ordered that way, but the subheadings only had "Humans" and "Non-humans", even though that goes against what the heading says and how it's actually laid out. It has a clear point in the text where it goes from talking about female humans to male humans - how does it not make sense to put a subheading there to clearly differentiate between the parts and make it easy to locate each? I changed it to have the subheadings "Female Humans" and "Male Humans" with the edit summary: "Made a subheading distinction between female humans and male humans, as it is ordered that way, and the heading implies there should be. It frankly makes no sense to me that it wouldn't be and I found the lack unnecessary confusing." The person who undid it said: "Unnecessary and actually more confusing." They then said: "The edit is unnecessary and actually more confusing. The section titled "female humans" only refers to "humans", for instance." Although it starts with talking about just humans, it quickly moves on to specifically females, and don't think it actually mentions any males (I could be wrong). It may be worth discussing whether the "Female Humans" subheading should be moved to below the first paragraph. This person obviously feels it would be more confusing to do it the way I have proposed (both "Female Humans" and "Male Humans" subheadings), but I want to hear what other people think. I also wanted to move this discussion to the talk page rather than keep undoing each other's edits. [[User:Anonymous2606|Anonymous2606]] [[User talk:Anonymous2606|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:57, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

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Tegan *narrowly* beating Clara in calendar time

Removed reference to Clara Oswald here:

In terms of calendar time that the public would have perceived a character as being a regular on Doctor Who, the winner is Tegan, clocking in at thirteen days shy of three years from her first regular appearance in Logopolis on 28 February 1981 to her last regular appearance in Resurrection of the Daleks on 15 February 1984. She only very narrowly defeats Clara, who is some four weeks short of three years as a regular character.

Because 1. Narrowly defeating is still defeating, and 2. In what way would Clara's cameo in The Snowmen count as a "regular appearance" to most people? Surely by most proper measurements she became a regular beginning with The Bells of Saint John in March 2013, making her run as a regular two years, seven months and 21 days? -- Tybort (talk page) 21:15, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

  • On Point 1: In terms of it being extraneous information, I can't dispute that, though it had sat unchallenged for years when Sara Jane was in the #2 spot. Addressing Point 2: Clara Oswin Oswald, the Victorian nanny, is considered the same character by dint of her status as a "splinter" of the original Clara (note that this very wiki defines the relationship accordingly). I'll go ahead and clean the rest of the section's clutter up. {{SUBST:User:Dangerdan97/Sig}} 13:48, November 30, 2015 (UTC)


What constitutes a companion?

For me it is clear... A companion has their own room in the Tardis. Everyone else I would consider an associate regardless of how close or long the association was. I am a long time viewer and fan of the show, but I am certainly no wiki expert here. But I have never considered either the brigadier or Rvier Song a companion. And I do not believe either one had their own room in the Tardis. Martek 00:27, February 4, 2016 (UTC)

The "behind the scenes" section of this article actually goes into depth on this point. You can find an explanation of the wiki's stance there. The forums are also full of companion debates, if you're interested, but they're not really eye-opening.--Skittles the hog - talk 01:37, February 4, 2016 (UTC)
Presumably Liz Shaw went home each night, after her shift at UNIT. Is she just an "associate"? Where does K9 fit in this? Another "associate"? Kamelion?
If you were a long time viewer, you wouldn't have been thinking about any of them as "companions" in the seventies - the women were "assistants". In the sixties they were mainly thought of as the Doctor's friends, although the word companion was used now and again.165.225.76.56talk to me 13:08, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Italics

I'm starting a discussion edits because I don't want edits to keep being undone and redone.

They were linking to the specific episodes, for example "Bell of Doom" links to the heading in the plot "Bell of Doom (4)". --Borisashton 19:23, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

Per Tardis:Italics, individual episode titles for Hartnell episodes get quotation marks. This is allowed in the citing of stories in the body of an article, but does not work in infoboxes. Shambala108 21:12, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

Master's Companions

Does Daniel Barton count as a companion of the Master? He traveled in the Master's TARDIS, so I'd assume that at least means he's considered. Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived 19:59, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

How Long Was Handles With The Doctor?

In the bit about Handles it says that he was with The Doctor on Trenzalore for 300 years. I can't look into it right now, but my memory was that it was 900 years? Either way, I could be wrong but 300 doesn't sound right to me. Could someone maybe look into this? If not, I can probably do it within the next few days... hopefully... Anonymous2606 18:32, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

The entire siege was 900 years, not the time Handles was around. Najawin 18:37, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

"Species and Gender" Subheadings

The name is "Species and Gender" and it is ordered that way, but the subheadings only had "Humans" and "Non-humans", even though that goes against what the heading says and how it's actually laid out. It has a clear point in the text where it goes from talking about female humans to male humans - how does it not make sense to put a subheading there to clearly differentiate between the parts and make it easy to locate each? I changed it to have the subheadings "Female Humans" and "Male Humans" with the edit summary: "Made a subheading distinction between female humans and male humans, as it is ordered that way, and the heading implies there should be. It frankly makes no sense to me that it wouldn't be and I found the lack unnecessary confusing." The person who undid it said: "Unnecessary and actually more confusing." They then said: "The edit is unnecessary and actually more confusing. The section titled "female humans" only refers to "humans", for instance." Although it starts with talking about just humans, it quickly moves on to specifically females, and don't think it actually mentions any males (I could be wrong). It may be worth discussing whether the "Female Humans" subheading should be moved to below the first paragraph. This person obviously feels it would be more confusing to do it the way I have proposed (both "Female Humans" and "Male Humans" subheadings), but I want to hear what other people think. I also wanted to move this discussion to the talk page rather than keep undoing each other's edits. Anonymous2606 18:57, August 6, 2020 (UTC)