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:Not yet read this one yet, but if you take a look at the pig category, all the pigs we have are walking on four legs. (Space Pig, etc) So, I don't see the problem just leaving it as it is. [[User:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived]] [[User talk:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:30, August 19, 2020 (UTC)
:Not yet read this one yet, but if you take a look at the pig category, all the pigs we have are walking on four legs. (Space Pig, etc) So, I don't see the problem just leaving it as it is. [[User:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived]] [[User talk:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:30, August 19, 2020 (UTC)
::I assume you mean "not all". Well, the space pig was genetically engineered, but that's besides the point. Because the problem isn’t that he’s sapient/bipedal, it’s that he’s not real. Well, none of them are "real", but, you know what I mean, fictional even in-universe. He’s a cartoon character come to life. Can such a being really be called a "pig"? Or does he have more in common with the people of the [[Land of Fiction]] and [[Eugene's World]]? Who, I note, we never call "humans". We don’t call them anything in fact. And we call [[Mona Lisa]] a "painting" as if it’s a species. But this guy, HE gets to be called a "pig". Is a pig still a pig if it isn’t a real pig, is what I’m asking? Is [[Panda]] a [[Panda (species)|Panda]]? I feel this deserved its own thread because it goes across more articles than just this one so I made one. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:56, August 19, 2020 (UTC)

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I notice this is in the "pigs" category, which has me thinking, does this really count as a "pig", or just a porcine anthropomorphic replicant? As in, due to its nature as a living cartoon and mental construct, can it truly be said to be of the same species as Earth pigs? I'm genuinely unsure either way myself, seems like a philosophical question to me! NightmareofEden 20:02, August 19, 2020 (UTC)

Furthermore, if this isn't a pig, what IS it? A unique being (since we see no other pigs on the crooked world), a member of its own species unique to the crooked world (in which case we should make a page called Crooked World creation or similar), should we list "cartoon" or "animation" or something as a "species", or should "crooked world porcine/feline/humanoid/etc." ALL be their own seperate specieseseseses (each membering the examples in that certain specific Earth species anthropobphically and animatedly replicated onto the crooked world), OR should we treat "fictional character come to life" as a "species" (in which case this guy would be of the same species as, say, Lemuel Gulliver, Mona Lisa, Childeric, or Mrs O'Grady)? Or perhaps something else I haven't thought of? Or is saving this whole headache a specific reason to simply keep it as "pig" in order to save trouble? I'd love to hear thoughts on this because it has me for one stumped... NightmareofEden 20:17, August 19, 2020 (UTC)


Just to note, some of this would impact all articles in the "crooked world individuals" category if gone through with, and some has even wider ranging potential. NightmareofEden 20:23, August 19, 2020 (UTC)

Not yet read this one yet, but if you take a look at the pig category, all the pigs we have are walking on four legs. (Space Pig, etc) So, I don't see the problem just leaving it as it is. Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived 20:30, August 19, 2020 (UTC)
I assume you mean "not all". Well, the space pig was genetically engineered, but that's besides the point. Because the problem isn’t that he’s sapient/bipedal, it’s that he’s not real. Well, none of them are "real", but, you know what I mean, fictional even in-universe. He’s a cartoon character come to life. Can such a being really be called a "pig"? Or does he have more in common with the people of the Land of Fiction and Eugene's World? Who, I note, we never call "humans". We don’t call them anything in fact. And we call Mona Lisa a "painting" as if it’s a species. But this guy, HE gets to be called a "pig". Is a pig still a pig if it isn’t a real pig, is what I’m asking? Is Panda a Panda? I feel this deserved its own thread because it goes across more articles than just this one so I made one. NightmareofEden 20:56, August 19, 2020 (UTC)