Talk:Adventures in Lockdown: Difference between revisions
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::::Novelisations add new content by virtue of being a completely different medium. If the short story versions are ''word-for-word'' the same, there's no point in creating a new page. We don't create new pages when a short story is narrated ([[:Category:Prose stories with audiobook readings]]), why would we treat it any differently if it occurred in reverse? | ::::Novelisations add new content by virtue of being a completely different medium. If the short story versions are ''word-for-word'' the same, there's no point in creating a new page. We don't create new pages when a short story is narrated ([[:Category:Prose stories with audiobook readings]]), why would we treat it any differently if it occurred in reverse? | ||
::::Obviously this wouldn't be the case for the short story-isations of ''[[Rory's Story (webcast)|Rory's Story]]'' and ''[[Message from the Doctor (webcast)|Message from the Doctor]]'' as they were not narrated. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:04, October 16, 2020 (UTC) | ::::Obviously this wouldn't be the case for the short story-isations of ''[[Rory's Story (webcast)|Rory's Story]]'' and ''[[Message from the Doctor (webcast)|Message from the Doctor]]'' as they were not narrated. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:04, October 16, 2020 (UTC) | ||
Audiobooks can add new content, be it pronunciation or tone. It depends on the quality of the narrator. There is, however, a long and storied tradition of considering it the same work as the original book, which isn't inherently the case with novelizations. (Though I note here that this wiki does go against tradition at times such as the decision to treat gameplay as narrative for video games.) Quite honestly I'm not sure how I feel about this issue and would love a broader range of perspectives, I just am not compelled by these arguments. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:12, October 16, 2020 (UTC) | |||
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The webcasts
Since this is a prose anthology, I'm going to assume that the webcasts listed are novelisations? Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎ 19:15, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Well, short-story-izations. And since many of them were just people reading things, it could just be the text they read. But someone went and linked to the webcasts, etc, even though I explicitly did not link to those when I created the page. I've delinked them now. Najawin ☎ 19:35, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
- All but two of the webcasts in this anthology were effectively just narrated short stories. Not sure of the precedent here, but unless they add anything to the original story, I'd wager it's not worth creating new pages when there's not any new information in them. It's worth waiting to see what the actual release holds, of course, before making any decisions. Danochy ☎ 22:47, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Listen (webcast) is a narrated poem even. I'm sure there's precedent for a novelization literally not adding any content to the TV story, so that seems similar enough?
- Far more interesting to me is that, while our Lockdown thread is, uh, no longer with us, this publication seems to circumnavigate both the question of whether these stories were licensed or whether Doctor Who Lockdown contains the Prose stories listed online. Not exactly answering either question, but answering a question similar to each one. Najawin ☎ 22:58, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Novelisations add new content by virtue of being a completely different medium. If the short story versions are word-for-word the same, there's no point in creating a new page. We don't create new pages when a short story is narrated (Category:Prose stories with audiobook readings), why would we treat it any differently if it occurred in reverse?
- Obviously this wouldn't be the case for the short story-isations of Rory's Story and Message from the Doctor as they were not narrated. Danochy ☎ 23:04, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
- All but two of the webcasts in this anthology were effectively just narrated short stories. Not sure of the precedent here, but unless they add anything to the original story, I'd wager it's not worth creating new pages when there's not any new information in them. It's worth waiting to see what the actual release holds, of course, before making any decisions. Danochy ☎ 22:47, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
Audiobooks can add new content, be it pronunciation or tone. It depends on the quality of the narrator. There is, however, a long and storied tradition of considering it the same work as the original book, which isn't inherently the case with novelizations. (Though I note here that this wiki does go against tradition at times such as the decision to treat gameplay as narrative for video games.) Quite honestly I'm not sure how I feel about this issue and would love a broader range of perspectives, I just am not compelled by these arguments. Najawin ☎ 23:12, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
