Theory talk:Timeline - Tenth Doctor

Day of the Doctor - Shakespeare Code

Shouldn't Day of the Doctor be somewhere before The Shakespeare Code? Because the Doctor greets Elizabeth I at the end of The Shakespeare Code as if he had known her before. Also, the Tenth Doctor looked surprised when the War Doctor said "Bad Wolf", I think Day of the Doctor should be somewhere after Doomsday and before the Shakespeare Code, he didn't have Martha with him while he was with Elizabeth. I suggest Day of the Doctor should rather be in the part "Grieving for Rose". – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Veteran Geezer (talk • contribs) .

The Tenth Doctor acts surprised and confused as to why she is so angry at him when he's with Shakepeare. We know The Day of the Doctor probably happened between The Waters of Mars and The End of Time.

In The Waters of Mars he is summoned by Ood Sigma, then in End of Time The Doctor references stopping at various places on the way, including meeting Elizabeth the First, with reference to the events at the beginning of Day of the Doctor Danochy ☎ 04:43, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

Dr. Tenth: A Christmas Surprise

I personally would’ve placed this directly after Frosty the Snowdemon. It seems plausible to me that the Doctor and Donna would decide to stick around and celebrate Christmas after the events at the garden centre. Thoughts? WaltK ☎ 01:38, October 15, 2019 (UTC)

That makes sense. Danochy ☎ 08:30, October 24, 2020 (UTC)

Echoes of Extinction

So AUDIO: Echoes of Extinction seems to have thrown up something of a continuity conundrum.

It’s very explicitly after the events of TLV, to the point where the Doctor isn’t actually expecting to be confronted with anything related to that, and he doesn’t really speak of it as though it’s particularly recent for him. So we know it goes sometime after All Flesh is Grass, with the Doctor having resumed his normal travels.

However an issue arises later on in the story, when the Doctor makes reference to a fiancé called Liz, whom he does an impression of. This is clearly intended to be Elizabeth I. The problem is, they get engaged during the events of The Day of the Doctor and then marry later on in the same story, with little opportunity for the Doctor to pop off and have other adventures in between.

I don’t personally feel it would be right to place this story during Day of the Doctor because of this reference, as it doesn’t really make any sense in the narrative of either story. I feel it would make more sense to place it after with the assumption that either the Doctor didn’t believe that the marriage ceremony was legally binding at the time, or that the presence of his other selves have messed with his memory. Basically I think we should treat this as though he doesn’t yet know that he actually married Elizabeth I and that’s why he calls her his fiancé, only to discover that he did in fact marry her by The End of Time.

What are everyone else’s thoughts? SarahJaneFan ☎ 14:45, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

It is possible it’s post-Day and the Doctor is just poorly recalling details due to usual multi-Doctor events screwing with memory, though that requires speculating that he somehow realised he did marry her by The End of Time when he clearly does remember marrying her. Trouble is I think the story is clearly designed as an epilogue for Tenth Doctor’s character arc in TLV so placing it so far after the main events feels wrong.

Is it not also possible the Doctor met Liz prior to The Day of the Doctor? It’s never explicitly said (if I remember rightly) how long he and her have been together prior to him confronting her about being a Zygon (which is the start of his role in Day). He could have been popping to and fro for a while before realising the Zygons were about and fearing they’d replaced Liz. I realise this is very speculative, so might not be appropriate for the Wiki. SherlockTheII ☎ 21:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)