Talk:Clara Oswald

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Separate articles for splinters

Okay so, I've been told that the decision to keep the info about Clara's splinters on a single page was made some time ago, not long after The Name of the Doctor's premier.

But a few things have changed since then. In light of our recently changed policy about splitting Time Lord pages by incarnation, as well as the 2014 introduction of another Clara splinter (Winnie Clarence from Blood & Ice), I believe Clara's splinters should, indeed, be split off into their own pages.

Now, obviously doing pages for every single Clara that appears in the TBotD montage, or the ones on that one Blood & Ice page would be super impractical, which is why I suggest only giving the big three their pages. So; Oswin Oswald (Asylum of the Daleks), Clara Oswin Oswald (The Snowmen), Winnie Clarence (Blood & Ice).

As for the other splinters, they could go on a single page like Clara Oswald's splinters. WaltK ☎ 21:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I feel that this idea makes perfect sense and would like to show my support. These splinters are near-enough separate characters, at least as much as, say, Shadow World replicas of characters, who recieve separate pages. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎ 21:10, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I completely agree with this proposal. Notable Clara splinters should get their own pages and "cameo" splinters getting collated on one page.

Only issues I have is the dabs; I feel like these are primary topics enough to not get dabs. The other thing is that a few Clara splinters appear in The Doctor: His Lives and Times which I feel should get their own pages but aren't as important as the aforementioned splinters.

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21:13, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I also support this idea. LauraBatham ☎ 02:15, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

I mean… it's not even a question of primary topics, is it? We don't currently know of any other DWU individuals named Oswin Oswald or Winnie Clarence than those splinters. There is no question of dabbing to be head. (Before anyone asks, this even applies to Clara Oswin Oswald. Despite a popular fandom misconception perpetuated by archiveofourown.org's tagging system, Oswin is not the prime Clara's middle name, that is extremely explict in The Bells of Saint John.)

Either way, not made up my mind on the specifics yet, but this seems basically reasonable as a proposal. The dialogue in The Name of the Doctor does lean towards the splinters being in some metaphysical sense their own persons (River's "But they won't be you. You, the real you, will die" comes to mind). And more importantly, Blood & Ice) is entirely rooted in hammering the point home that Winnie is not Clara and is leading her own life. We don't cover all Cwejen on Chris Cwej, which seems like a good precedent. Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 02:18, 22 July 2021 (UTC)