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Castrovalva, Midnight and Frontios take you to the planet? Utopia takes you to a disambig page? Timelash takes you to the device? Although it does indicate a kind of patterned logic, it's completely against general wikipedia naming conventions. THe most common thing should get the least modified form of the name. It should be that Castrovalva takes you to the story and Castrovalva (planet) takes you to the planet. There is nothing in the TARDIS wiki manual of style which supports the way this has grown on the wiki, and it should be vigorously reverted. I mean, how many times are you going to link to Castrovalva and mean the planet? Judging by the "What Links Here" list, not a hell of a lot. The story is by far the more popular page. Pain in the ass to fix, but really, it should be. We've really got to put the average user first here. Someone coming to our site just to read our work isn't, by and large, going to search for Utopia by the search phrase Utopia (TV story). Especially if they've never seen or read the work in question.

Doctor Who is a television series, first and foremost. Its televised stories get unmodified titles. I hate to sound so strident, but that's just how it's gotta be. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 04:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that if a planet or decive or anything else has the same name as a story (TV/Novel Ect) when they should get the unmodifyed name however if it is the same name as a character i.e. The Master, Doctor Who then the character should get the unmodifyed name the the story should get The Master (TV Story) or Doctor Who (1996) Dark Lord Xander 05:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

All this is already covered in the Tardis:Manual of style page. Doug86 09:40, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

How so? The MOS doesn't actually say much about how to name an article related to a televised story. Thus, this thing of Castrovalva leading to the planet, but Castrovalva (TV story) leading to the story. What I'm saying is that the MOS needs to be amended so it's clearer that the thing most likely to be searched for/linked to gets the unmodified name. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that people searching for a tv story title will generally be looking for the story tile. Almost no-one would be looking for the object in Timelash, or Arc of Infity. I think that the only cases where it should be a disambig are if the story is a species name (dalek, robot), or the title of more than one story (human nature, shada). Planets, objects etc should be linked to from the story page itself. (e.g this is about the story, see x for the planet) Jack's the man - 17:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

In addition, when I cleared out Logoplois and Castrovalva, more than half the links to the planet pages actually wanted the story page - it should be clarified so this doesn't happen. Jack's the man - 17:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Revival

Well, two years on almost and I still don't get this. The conversation seemed to end here without resolution, but with reasonable agreement that the story title should get the unmodified name. Any new thoughts or explanations for why we have this weird naming convention here? CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 23:30, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

I've always thought of it that in-universe takes precedence and out-of-universe stuff goes in brackets. So much like names of people where we specify which story they're from (such as Jean (The Reign of Terror) and Jean (The Curse of Fenric). It's also become a convention (albeit another unwritten one I think) to put further definition elements into brackets when we've got multiple titles such as Twilight of the Gods (MA) and Twilight of the Gods (BNA). --Tangerineduel 05:53, March 30, 2010 (UTC)