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== Pratt == | |||
Someone else appears to have remarked on this, but there's been more discussion about this topic since elsewhere and things have changed. This says: | |||
:Note that ''[[Legacy of the Daleks (novel)|Legacy of the Daleks]]'' makes it ''explicitly'' and ''unambiguously'' clear that the "crispy" version played by Pratt and Beevers is merely an injured Delgado — not a different incarnation. Consequently, the template {{tlx|Delgado}} refers to all appearances of the Master set between the novel ''[[The Dark Path (novel)|The Dark Path]]'' and the final moments of ''[[The Keeper of Traken (TV story)|The Keeper of Traken]]''. | |||
This isn’t exactly true. Firstly, ''[[Doorway to Hell (comic story)|Doorway to Hell]]'' contradicts this, so it is no longer "explicitly and unambiguously clear". Secondly, from what I understand from discussions, ''Legacy of the Daleks'' isn't actually super clear on this either, but I have not read it so I may be mistaken. Either way, {{tlx|Pratt}} now exists so this paragraph should be deleted. | |||
As a separate note, I also suggest that the list of templates be rearranged in a less confusing order, perhaps alphabetically or more reasonably, chronologically for the order they appear on the actual page. [[User:Chubby Potato|Chubby Potato]] [[User talk:Chubby Potato|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
Yes, I came here to say this too. This page seems outdated and this whole idea of bunching them all into one overlong page is very needlessly confusing. Literally every other Time Lord gets multiple pages for their multiple incarnations, and the idea of all the classic Masters being one incarnation is now contradicted by so much media. As for the contradictory accounts, we have [[The Doctor's ninth incarnation|this page]] so we're clearly OK with Time Lord characters having some ambiguous incarnation placement now. If the forums ever come back (which I increasingly doubt every day), we definitely need to have a serious talk about this because it's getting ridiculous and will only get more so as the Master continues to rack up more and more appearances and incarnations. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:24, 21 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 01:24, 21 December 2021
The page mentions that legacy of the daleks states that the beevers version of the master is a decayed Delgado.
2016's The Two Masters establishes them as separate incarnations?
how do we reconcile this?
205.210.17.241talk to me 23:45, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
Pratt[[edit source]]
Someone else appears to have remarked on this, but there's been more discussion about this topic since elsewhere and things have changed. This says:
- Note that Legacy of the Daleks makes it explicitly and unambiguously clear that the "crispy" version played by Pratt and Beevers is merely an injured Delgado — not a different incarnation. Consequently, the template {{Delgado}} refers to all appearances of the Master set between the novel The Dark Path and the final moments of The Keeper of Traken.
This isn’t exactly true. Firstly, Doorway to Hell contradicts this, so it is no longer "explicitly and unambiguously clear". Secondly, from what I understand from discussions, Legacy of the Daleks isn't actually super clear on this either, but I have not read it so I may be mistaken. Either way, {{Pratt}} now exists so this paragraph should be deleted.
As a separate note, I also suggest that the list of templates be rearranged in a less confusing order, perhaps alphabetically or more reasonably, chronologically for the order they appear on the actual page. Chubby Potato ☎ 06:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I came here to say this too. This page seems outdated and this whole idea of bunching them all into one overlong page is very needlessly confusing. Literally every other Time Lord gets multiple pages for their multiple incarnations, and the idea of all the classic Masters being one incarnation is now contradicted by so much media. As for the contradictory accounts, we have this page so we're clearly OK with Time Lord characters having some ambiguous incarnation placement now. If the forums ever come back (which I increasingly doubt every day), we definitely need to have a serious talk about this because it's getting ridiculous and will only get more so as the Master continues to rack up more and more appearances and incarnations. NightmareofEden ☎ 01:24, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
