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 :: Updated accordingly. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:47, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
+Also [[Ben Brown]] who worked at [[Torchwood Three]] with per ''[[Long Time Dead (novel)]]'' is missing. [[User:myreling|myreling]] [[User_talk:myrling|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:21, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
+== Template redesign ==
+I have revamped the template to hopefully give more information to the regular reader. This includes the additions of [[Agnes Havisham]], [[George Herbert Sanderson]], [[Llinos King]], [[Rhydian]], [[Commodore (Overture)|Commodore]], [[Karen Baldwin]], [[James Unsworth]], [[Ariana (The Torchwood Archive)|Ariana]], [[Eva Giles]] and [[Ng]]. It also showcases the various leaders of Torchwood 3, as well as Jack's early role as an associate rather than full member, there are also key dates added. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:12, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
+{{Navbox
+| name       = Torchwood 3 Staff
+| title      = [[Torchwood Three]] personnel
+| group1     = [[1880s]]
+| list1      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      = [[Agnes Havisham]] ([[1985]]-[[1901]])
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[George Herbert Sanderson]]
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      =
+}}
+| group2     = [[1890s]]
+| list2      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      = [[Agnes Havisham]] ([[1985]]-[[1901]]) • [[Emily Holroyd]]
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[George Herbert Sanderson]] • [[Alice Guppy]] • [[Charles Gaskell]]
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group3     = [[1900s]]
+| list3      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      = [[Agnes Havisham]] ([[1985]]-[[1901]]) • [[Gerald Kneale]] ([[1907]]-[[1926]])
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[George Herbert Sanderson]] • [[Alice Guppy]] • [[Charles Gaskell]]
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group4     = [[1910s]]
+| list4      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      = [[Gerald Kneale]] ([[1907]]-[[1926]])
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[Douglas Caldwell]] ([[1914]]-[[1930]]) • [[Lydia Childs]] ([[1913]]-[[1920s]]) • [[Harriet Derbyshire]] ([[1916]]-[[1919]])
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group5     = [[1920s]]
+| list5      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      = [[Gerald Kneale]] ([[1907]]-[[1926]])
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[Douglas Caldwell]] ([[1914]]-[[1930]]) • [[Lydia Childs]] (from [[1918]])
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group6     = [[1930s]]
+| list6      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      =
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[Douglas Caldwell]] ([[1914]]-[[1930]]) • [[Lydia Childs]] (from [[1918]]) • [[Charles Quinn (To the Last Man)|Charles Quinn]]
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group7     = [[1940s]]
+| list7      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      = [[Tilda Brennan]] (until [[1941]]) • [[Commodore (Overture)|Commodore]] (from [[1941]])
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[Charles Quinn (To the Last Man)|Charles Quinn]] • [[Greg Bishop]] (until [[1941]]) • [[Llinos King]] • [[Rhydian]] • [[Charles Cromwell]] ([[1945]]-[[1975]])
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group8     = [[1950s]]
+| list8      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      =
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[Charles Cromwell]] ([[1945]]-[[1975]])
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group9     = [[1960s]]
+| list9      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      = [[Turner (Trace Memory)|Turner]]
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[Charles Cromwell]] ([[1945]]-[[1975]]) • [[Kenneth Valentine]] • [[Lucy (Trace Memory)|Lucy]] (from [[1967]]) • [[Lucia Moretti]] ([[1968]]-[[1975]])
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group10    = [[1970s]]
+| list10     = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      =
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[Charles Cromwell]] ([[1945]]-[[1975]]) • [[Lucia Moretti]] ([[1968]]-[[1977]])
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group11    = [[1980s]]
+| list11     = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth =
+| group1     = Leader
+| list1      = [[Alex Hopkins]] (until [[1999]])
+| group2     = Operatives
+| list2      = [[Martin Gibbons]]
+| group3     = Associates
+| list3      = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group12     = [[1990s]]
+| list12      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth  =
+| group1      = Leader
+| list1       = [[Alex Hopkins]] (until [[1999]])
+| group2      = Operatives
+| list2       = [[James Lawson]] • [[Craig (The Torchwood Archives)|Craig]] • [[Karen Baldwin]] (until [[1999]]) • [[James Unsworth]] (until [[1999]]) • [[Ariana (The Torchwood Archive)|Ariana]] (until [[1999]])
+| group3      = Associates
+| list3       = [[Jack Harkness]]
+}}
+| group13     = [[2000s]]
+| list13      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth  =
+| group1      = Leader
+| list1       = [[Jack Harkness]]
+| group2      = Operatives
+| list2       = [[Ben Brown]] • [[Suzie Costello]] (until [[2006]]) • [[Sebastian Vaughan]] • [[Toshiko Sato]] ([[2005]]-[[2009]]) • [[Owen Harper]] ([[2006]]-[[2009]]) • [[Ianto Jones]] ([[2007]]-[[2009]]) • [[Gwen Cooper]] (from [[2007]]) • [[James Mayer]] ([[2007]]) • [[Adam Smith]]
+| group3      = Associates
+| list3       = [[Andy Davidson]] • [[Martha Jones]] • [[Nina Rogers]] • [[Helen (Adrift)|Helen]] • [[John Hart]]
+}}
+| group14     = [[2010s]]
+| list14      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth  =
+| group1      = Leader
+| list1       = [[Jack Harkness]] • [[Yvonne Hartman (Pete's World)|Yvonne Hartman]]
+| group2      = Operatives
+| list2       = [[Gwen Cooper]] (from [[2007]]) • [[Rhys Williams]] • [[Dana MacLeish]] • [[Hollis Jefferson Albert]] • [[Rona Moss]] • Lady [[Karina Stirling]] • [[Mary Shelley (Exodus Code)|Mary Shelley]] • [[Vlad Lidenbrok]] • [[Sladen (The Culling)|Sladen]] • [[St John Colchester]] • [[Ng]] • [[Orr]] • [[Tyler Steele]]
+| group3      = Associates
+| list3       = [[Andy Davidson]] • [[John Hart]]
+}}
+| group15     = [[2020s]]
+| list15      = {{navbox|child
+| groupwidth  =
+| group1      = Leader
+| list1       =
+| group2      = Operatives
+| list2       = [[Tania Bell]]
+| group3      = Associates
+| list3       =
+}}
+| group16     = Undated operatives
+| list16      = [[Phillip Lyle]] • [[James Lees (The Torchwood Archives)|James Lees]] • [[Terry Marriott]] • [[Sharmila Seth]]
+}}
+:I think you've done an ''amazing'' job. Just beware of the [[Aliens of London dating controversy]] when making this. For example, Children of Earth took place in 2009, hence Ianto Jones died in 2009. Gwen joined during S1 of Torchwood which took place one year after its broadcast date. So ''Everything Changes'' would be roughly October 2007 (as verified by the novel ''Border Princes''), not 2006. This only affects the 2000s onwards, so it's an easy fix. It also catches itself up by the Moffat era. Don't let this comment disparage you, you've done an amazing job. I hope this is integrated into the Wiki somewhere. [[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<small><sup><font color="green">Talk</font></sup></small>]] 00:21, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
+:: Ah thank you, changes made! [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:00, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
+::: I think dividing it up by decade, and then by team role, brings with it too much repetition: the years in brackets should do the trick. Maybe if we tried with the same information, but split up again by century?
+:::For members with unclear dates, just "(1950s)" would do the trick. And everyone would be listed in order (like now) according to when they first joined that role, so it maintains the chronology.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 15:39, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
+:::: Actually, thinking it over again, maybe we can focus in on significant decades (ie. ones with significant variation from the surrounding decades), and feature the others either as ranges or in relative terms. "Early 20th century", "1950s-1970s"; that sort of thing. Anything that mostly carries over from one decade to the next should just be merged.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 15:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
+::::: I don't understand why you would want the decades merged because a single character (or a couple) overlap? As it stands any reader can go to a specific decade and instantly see which characters were serving in that decade. If we merge categories certain characters have unclear dates so their serving decade would be unclear. For example; if we combined the 1950s-1970s, as you suggested, Turner would be sat in that category and it would be unclear if they served in the 1950s, 60s or 70s whereas the only information we currently have is that they served in the 60s. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
+:::::: Surely we could just use parentheses. Character name (1953-57) • Character name (1950s) • etc. And it could just be split up by general era or by century, so that Jack still shows up in each section.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 23:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
+::::::: Going to bump this. I still think the template that I have devised is far better than the one we currently have. Any reader can go to a specific time period and see which characters were serving in that specific era. Splitting it by "general era" or century just wouldn't be as clear to the average reader in my opinion. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:11, 10 December 2022 (UTC)