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:'''Fully support''' making it a policy-requirement to use "unproduced" in unproduced stories. It is very confusing to come across pages without that dab, to me at least, and a am willing to bet other people. Also agree on the latter point. [[User:Cousin Ettolrhc|Cousin Ettolrhc]] [[User talk:Cousin Ettolrhc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:26, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:'''Fully support''' making it a policy-requirement to use "unproduced" in unproduced stories. It is very confusing to come across pages without that dab, to me at least, and a am willing to bet other people. Also agree on the latter point. [[User:Cousin Ettolrhc|Cousin Ettolrhc]] [[User talk:Cousin Ettolrhc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:26, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::I seem to recall a discussion about this exact proposal a few years back in some talk pages, but I went through my post history and can't find it. I'm either looking in the wrong namespace or it was scrubbed. Oh well. Support, though I also think we should expand our coverage of unproduced stories, as discussed at the talk page, since it's incredibly TV-centric. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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Proposal

The core part of this proposal is very straightforward: adding "unproduced" to the dab term of pages in Category:Unproduced stories, such as moving Lungbarrow (TV story) to Lungbarrow (unproduced TV story). We already do this when a title is shared with a produced story, like The Talons of Weng-Chiang (unproduced TV story); expanding it more broadly will be a simple quality-of-life improvement by making it clear in search results which stories were released and which ones aren't.

While (unproduced TV story) is the primary topic of this thread, I'm also going to mention WaltK's proposal that we differentiate between unproduced and unreleased stories. Indeed, it's long been discussed at Talk:List of unproduced stories that the umbrella term "unproduced" is overly broad and maybe even inaccurate in some cases. In our coverage of stories like Absent Friends which were recorded and edited but not released, we already use cast lists and other elements that place these stories in a different mold than unproduced pitches or scripts like Fifty-Fifty. It might make sense to dab and classify them differently, as well.

"Unreleased" may be the best word for stories like Absent Friends, although there are also other options. Since this is the secondary topic, I'd like us to move forward with (unproduced TV story) regardless of whether this thread reaches a consensus on "unreleased" within its time window, but hopefully we can come to a conclusion on both fronts at once :) – n8 () 16:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

Yeah, this makes sense to me. It makes it more clear to readers about what the page is about. I'm also in favor of differentiating unproduced and unreleased works, because again, it makes things more clear at a glance. Time God Eon 20:24, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Fully support making it a policy-requirement to use "unproduced" in unproduced stories. It is very confusing to come across pages without that dab, to me at least, and a am willing to bet other people. Also agree on the latter point. Cousin Ettolrhc 20:26, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
I seem to recall a discussion about this exact proposal a few years back in some talk pages, but I went through my post history and can't find it. I'm either looking in the wrong namespace or it was scrubbed. Oh well. Support, though I also think we should expand our coverage of unproduced stories, as discussed at the talk page, since it's incredibly TV-centric. Najawin 20:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)