User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Reference Desk/@comment-6433721-20130212041323

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Reference Desk/@comment-6433721-20130212041323 While we can establish that Amy must already be a Ganger by the time she reaches the orphanage in Day of the Moon - because they find the nanorecorder laying on the ground, and because she had a vision of Madam Kovarian. Before The Impossible Astronaut, though? Not necessarily. First, the Silent in the bathroom had to find Amy to hypnotise her into telling the Doctor that she was pregnant. As they would have had access to Amy through Kovarian, this would be unnecessary if she were already a Ganger. Also, at this time the Doctor still had access to both Amy and the Tardis scanner, to verify her pregnancy, if needed, before they kidnapped her. (This Silent obviously wanted him to know for some reason, perhaps to ensure his presence at Demon's Run.) Also, the Silence are in complete control in America in 1969. It's implied that they are at the height of their power in that country and in that time, so why would they take Amy where their power is less consolidated and they haven't been detected? We can interpret what is shown in the episode to mean that the Silence have the ability to make a new Ganger of Amy when the previous one is destroyed, as she disappears from the orphanage and reappears in their control room, where they are trying to convince her she has been there for a long time. Their ability to create a Ganger of Amy back in Present-Day Leadworth, where we haven't established that there are tunnels and where she has family and friends around is theoretical. At the beginning of the second episode, Amy has been on the run for three months and is shown to be apart from Rory and River during this time. There was a much greater opportunity for them to have secured her at this time. The Doctor's word is the only thing we have to say that Amy was taken sometime before she came to America. We all know that, while very, very, very good, the Doctor is not infallible, and he wasn't actually there. ComicBookGoddess ☎ 04:13, February 12, 2013 (UTC)