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I think it should be renamed "Doctor Who: The Fan Show", given that that's what it is actually called. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:27, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
I think it should be renamed "Doctor Who: The Fan Show", given that that's what it is actually called. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:27, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
:At first, I also though that, but then I decided to add both possibilities because usually "Doctor Who" is kept out of page titles (like [[Legacy (video game)]], which is mostly referenced as "Doctor Who: Legacy" and [[Comic Creator]], which is mostly referenced as "Doctor Who Comic Creator") [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:31, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
::What I wanna know is why they are not called their actual titles. Then we could just as well change "Doctor Who and the Silurians" to be called "And the Silurians". --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:42, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
:::"Doctor Who and" is a very different situation to "Doctor Who:" I can't remember what the forum page was called right now, but it's long been decided that we truncate "Doctor Who:" from titles at Tardis.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 20:48, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
::::It just seems a little weird. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:51, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
:::::[[Forum:Doctor Who prefix in titles]], continued in [[Thread:117218]] in the new forums.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 20:55, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
::::::Giving these threads, the name should definitely be ''The Fan Show'' then. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:00, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
:::::::What about using the "retitle" function? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:12, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
:::I don't think you know what {{tlx|retitle}} is for. Also, please don't add a {{tlx|speedy rename}} while a rename discussion is still ongoing.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 02:14, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
::::Just gonna say the "speedy rename" was not my doing. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:26, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, that was me. Sorry [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:32, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
::::::Page has been renamed ''[[The Fan Show]]''. ''[[Doctor Who: The Fan Show]]'' redirects here as well.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 19:50, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
== Coverage ==
I notice many episodes don't have pages. Is this because of [[people]] not bothering or because of an old [[:Category:Forums|forum]] debate? Personally, I believe that they should be fully covered, but I'm curious if there's been a decision against this. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:08, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
: No decision, just a matter of the pages not having been created yet. Feel free to pick up the torch. <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 10:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
:: Would it be a good [[idea]] to add 'redlinks' for the episodes so that it's clearer that they're allowed to be covered, but just haven't yet? [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:40, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
::: I would say so. ——[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:48, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
:::: I suppose I'll quickly do that, then if it's not a good idea, it can be undone. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
== Why are these invalid? ==
Yes, I know some of them fail Rules 1 and 2 and 4, but could anyone tell me why the in-universe ones are invalid? I've done a quick forum search, but I couldn't find anything. Thanks. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|Aquanafrahudy]] [[User talk:Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
: There's not so much a blanket reason as all the ones seen so far seeming to break Rule 4 in one way or another — many are parodies, a few more aren't really but transition directly into the real-world hosting of the episode. Nothing in policy would forbid some ''Fan Show'' episode from being valid on its own terms, we just haven't found that beast yet (but then again, not all the episodes have been Wikified properly). [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 12:08, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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Rename[[edit source]]

I think it should be renamed "Doctor Who: The Fan Show", given that that's what it is actually called. --DCLM 20:27, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

At first, I also though that, but then I decided to add both possibilities because usually "Doctor Who" is kept out of page titles (like Legacy (video game), which is mostly referenced as "Doctor Who: Legacy" and Comic Creator, which is mostly referenced as "Doctor Who Comic Creator") OncomingStorm12th 20:31, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
What I wanna know is why they are not called their actual titles. Then we could just as well change "Doctor Who and the Silurians" to be called "And the Silurians". --DCLM 20:42, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
"Doctor Who and" is a very different situation to "Doctor Who:" I can't remember what the forum page was called right now, but it's long been decided that we truncate "Doctor Who:" from titles at Tardis.
×   SOTO contribs ×°//]   💬| {/-//:   20:48, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
It just seems a little weird. --DCLM 20:51, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
Forum:Doctor Who prefix in titles, continued in Thread:117218 in the new forums.
×   SOTO contribs ×°//]   💬| {/-//:   20:55, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
Giving these threads, the name should definitely be The Fan Show then. OncomingStorm12th 21:00, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
What about using the "retitle" function? --DCLM 21:12, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
I don't think you know what {{retitle}} is for. Also, please don't add a {{speedy rename}} while a rename discussion is still ongoing.
×   SOTO contribs ×°//]   💬| {/-//:   02:14, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
Just gonna say the "speedy rename" was not my doing. --DCLM 19:26, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that was me. Sorry OncomingStorm12th 19:32, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
Page has been renamed The Fan Show. Doctor Who: The Fan Show redirects here as well.
×   SOTO contribs ×°//]   💬| {/-//:   19:50, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Coverage[[edit source]]

I notice many episodes don't have pages. Is this because of people not bothering or because of an old forum debate? Personally, I believe that they should be fully covered, but I'm curious if there's been a decision against this. Cookieboy 2005 10:08, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

No decision, just a matter of the pages not having been created yet. Feel free to pick up the torch. Scrooge MacDuck 10:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea to add 'redlinks' for the episodes so that it's clearer that they're allowed to be covered, but just haven't yet? Cookieboy 2005 10:40, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
I would say so. ——Danniesen 10:48, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
I suppose I'll quickly do that, then if it's not a good idea, it can be undone. Cookieboy 2005 10:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Why are these invalid?[[edit source]]

Yes, I know some of them fail Rules 1 and 2 and 4, but could anyone tell me why the in-universe ones are invalid? I've done a quick forum search, but I couldn't find anything. Thanks. Aquanafrahudy 08:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

There's not so much a blanket reason as all the ones seen so far seeming to break Rule 4 in one way or another — many are parodies, a few more aren't really but transition directly into the real-world hosting of the episode. Nothing in policy would forbid some Fan Show episode from being valid on its own terms, we just haven't found that beast yet (but then again, not all the episodes have been Wikified properly). Scrooge MacDuck 12:08, 21 May 2023 (UTC)