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Re: Infobox Linking

Hi. You can use {{!}} instead of a |. Bongo50 ☎ 17:36, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

R2

That's a... broad subject matter. Do you have anything specific in mind so I can narrow it down? There's quite a few discussions on licensing and R2, but I'm not sure how many of them are relevant to what specifically you're looking for. Najawin ☎ 18:28, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Very much so. If you want just the reasoning for the strict, plain text of R2 exists and discussions of whether it should be changed and how things push the boundaries, I could look for stuff related to that. The obvious discussions off the top of my head are Talk:Fred, Forum:BBV and canon policy, and (I'm so sorry) Talk:Legacies (short story)/Archive 1. Najawin ☎ 18:40, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Lemme know how else I can help. But if it's not super important, in a few months I do plan on doing a R4bp-revisited post that will touch on R2 fairly heavily. Your call. Najawin ☎ 19:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't think this has ever been done explicitly per se. The DWU has been defined, and redefined, a few times. And then elements of the DWU follow naturally from this definition. See Forum:The original inclusion debates for the oldest discussions on the subject. Najawin ☎ 22:28, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Re: tie-in websites

Yes, I have noticed Into the Unknown (series). I do mean to get around to tinkering with the coverage of that site eventually, but I am currently working on Who is Doctor Who? before overhauling Torchwood Mission Game as that has a whole slew of tie-in websites that aren't covered. It's on my to-do list, in short. Thanks for point it out though, I appreciate this sort of help.

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16:57, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Phenomenal work

Just wanted to stop by and give you a huge kudos for pages like Ogilvy and Durian :) – n8 (☎) 13:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Cabal of the Horned Beast

Hi,

I noticed you added a photo of Aubrey Knox's gang to the Cabal of the Horned Beast page. I don't remember his gang ever being stated to be/have connection with the Cabal but it has been a good while since I read the comic. Or perhaps this was mentioned in another work? Could you possibly refresh my memory. DrWHOCorrieFan ☎ 15:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

No worries, I'd have been pleased if they were connected. DrWHOCorrieFan ☎ 16:52, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Department of Festivities

Hey — thank you for your interest in The Crew of the Copper-Colored Cupids, truly, but The Quantek doesn't actually have a claim to coverage; the Department of Festivities debuted way back in 2020 in Homeworld Lockdown Vignettes. It didn't debut in Auteur's Abecedarium at all!

(Also, this is neither here nor there, but despite the "Fact File" framing, I would personally have been inclined to deem it a short story, not a feature.) Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 20:49, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Check again! It's definitely there.

“Maybe we could adopt a fish! Or learn to cook!” suggested Pseudo-Pessimist, a duplicate of the genuine article built by Director Darius of the Drove of the Database-Compiling Dromedaries, who had taken the opportunity to claim the use of Pessimist’s desk and was, at that moment, decorating it with helium balloons that he had taken from the Department of Festivities.Homeworld Lockdown Vignettes

As I said, I'm very glad of the interest, but this just doesn't wash in this case. (Note that the series is coverable in full on the Jenny Everywhere Wiki, so if you have an interest in Wikifying this material, you can do so over there, where The Quantek has yet to be given a page.) Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 21:30, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

No worries! Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 00:03, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Glanced at your sandbox

You might also be interested in User talk:Tangerineduel/Archive 2#Canon policy rewrite and User talk:CzechOut/Archive 4#Canon policy rewrite. Najawin ☎ 18:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Re: Roland Rat

Sure, go ahead!

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17:46, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm thinking a forum thread. On Talk:Untitled (1986 TV story), I rather got my facts wrong about the nature of the continuity announcements, believing they were real announcements on BBC3, when BBC3 didn't even exist back then. So, given the scope of the article will be shifting to cover an entire crossover, ideally making it valid, that'll need discussion.

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16:37, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Best you do it as I've got many pages I need to finish off, such as Essay Competition (short story) and The Phoenix in the Tardis (feature)...

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16:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Immediate edits

Would it be acceptable to ask you to wait at least a couple of seconds before immediately jumping to "correct" an edit? DrWHOCorrieFan ☎ 20:50, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I knew it wasn't intentional to cause annoyance but I did find it slightly frustrating as I'd only just created the page that second and immediately went back to correct a mistake only to get a conflict warning. DrWHOCorrieFan ☎ 20:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Re: Abuse filter

Sorry about that. I made a mistake when implementing the filter that meant that it blocked all non-admins from making any edits. It should be fixed now. This will teach me to add abuse filter rules on my phone in a rush. Bongo50 ☎ 20:06, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Thunderbirds validity.

If you ever do get around to I will gladly help out. I myself a a bit of a Gerry Anderson aficionado, and have likewise been thinking about it for a while. My original plan was to first of all try and get all the Lady Penelope comics validated first (and then the rest of TVC21) before starting on the main show of Thunderbirds (which would be extension validate Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons as well as the Zero X comic via the spaceship Zero X) unfortunately I struggle a little with the way this website works, but I know a lot about the works of Gerry Anderson. Anastasia Cousins ☎ 17:21, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

that’s why I went for the comics first as wel already cover a significant amount of them. We could argue both under standard ruling (lady Penelope especially as she appears first in the comics, but for the other which don’t crossover with the first story (not sure which) we could argue rule four by Proxy, however the rule four by proxy would most like be best to apply to the fireball XL5 episode “Space Vacation” which is the first appearance of Kemble, this I believe would be the easiest to get validated followed by the comics. We already cover one thunderbirds episode the Man From MI5 and that could set a loose precedent. Aid we mange to get the 21 comics strip and all of his comic/short story appearances validated then we can easily push through another episode of Thunderbirds in which he appears. I have always reckoned that a series of validation debates working up from “space vacation ” and then TVC21 comics (with said debate for the comics being split for each of them) we could get people used to the idea of covwerinb more and more Gerry Anderson works. In the end I believe “Thunderbirds” “Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons” as well as possibly “fireball XL5” could be validated on this wiki (the whole of Frieball less so than thew other as it predates Doctor Who significantly. However I think the comics getting passed will work with a hard push. I know a few people who despite not being regular editors could help get the comics and “Space Vacation” validated (I can not promise). Anastasia Cousins ☎ 18:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

21 appearers in an episode of Thunderbirds under one of his regular pseudonyms. This would push the idea that Thunderbirds is Valid. The more solid ground we have the build the argument For the whole show the better. We get the comics with lady Penelope and Thunderbirds out then with them as the foundations we get 21 and as many other TVC21 strips validated then it’s not much of a hop to all of Thunderbirds and from Thunderbirds to Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons. I still say Space Vacation has completing link to validate via the use of Kemble (over half the story is set on Kemble) we know is is the same Kimble as they where both created by the same person and thus the rights are used. Not to mention the depictions of the planet are similar enough as well. Whilst the whole of fireball is a bit of push for now the oxygen pills (created by Terry Nation for Gerry Anderson) also appear in some of the Classic Dalek annuals in the 60’s that on its own is flimsy but if we get the whole of the magazine TVC21 validated well what’s to stop us getting Fireball as well (not to mention Captain Black was the former commander of Fireball XL3), Stingray will be the hardest to push through of all of them. But for now a focus on the comics and Thunderbirds is on the main agenda, the rest can come latter.Anastasia Cousins ☎ 21:11, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

that’s fair I was just getting a bit ahead of myself. But if you do have questions about the respective series’s or the comics (which I am currently about halfway through (they are well over a hundred rather think magazine issues in total)) please ask. I have after all watched them all several times. And am very familiar with the links between the comics and shows (still a few little gaps however). Interestingly with the CSatM comic validation a single big finish Captain Scarlet audio would also become valid as it is an adaptation of one of the comics Stories. (I also think some episodes of the Gerry Anderson podcast would have to be cover as sometimes they have adoptions of the comics there but I would have to double check for you in that matter.) Anastasia Cousins ☎ 07:28, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Roland Rat

I glanced at it at the beginning and felt I didn't know enough to comment. I'll read through it again and see. Najawin ☎ 19:36, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Re: Dirk Gently

Ah, no, I still do plan on doing it — I have a (non-public) draft and all. I was just waiting for the R4BP thread to be done, mainly. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 13:08, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Poems

Hiya, just want to let you know that poems shouldn't be treated as poems. After Forum:Temporary forums/Non-narrative fiction and Rule 1#Conclusion, it was ruled that poems would be treated as their own thing, not lumped in with short stories anymore; if there are parts of the Wiki that still do so, they should be corrected (like how I've been shifting the contents of Category:Stories to Category:Sources to accomodate non-narrative fiction). As Tardis:Rule of three applies, Bernard Socks on Poetry (poem) should be in Category:Life on Magrs sources (there are other short stories from Life on Magrs on the Wiki so Category:Life on Magrs short stories should remain and the relevant pages should be added to it). Hope this helps.

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18:43, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Life on Magrs posts

Hey — just seen that you've created a bunch of these. The enthusiasm is appreciated, but I'm really uncomfortable with a lot of those page creations. (Not all of them — the Vince Cosmos interview, the meta Señor 105 interview, even Panda Pride… those are fine.) Bernard Socks is not an inherently DWU character. He's a real cat from the real world, and Magrs draws cartoony doodles of him and posts them on his blog as cat-owners are known to do. When you've got things that are specifically in continuity with the two cat novels where Panda-the-living-toy appears, there's a conversation to be had, but Autumnal cat drawings is not a work of DWU fiction. Come on. I don't want to go on a mass deleting spree but I just think you've cascaded some way down a very slippery slope here. Magrs's productions have always been hard to draw boundary lines around, but this? This is clearly on the wrong side of that line. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 20:32, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

No, see, the thing is, aside from Rule 4 concerns (and there are Rule 4 concerns as well with some of those, but maybe A Year Since… would sidestep them), the thing is that I do not think any of these things pass Rule 2. Mildly anthropomorphising a real cat does not make him a legally copyrightable fictional character. (I think Epsilon has on occasion acted like "the in-universe Paul Magrs" could be copyrightable, which might have led you astray, but that's an incorrect view IMO, and one which I think Epsilon has changed his mind about). Specific versions of real-world things can count as Rule-2-worthy DWU-debuting elements, but there has to be significant originality to the portrayal, you know? Panda being a deep-voiced, animate, cynical part-time art-critic of ambiguously alien origins, that's something tangible, the real toy is just a starting point but you could definitely not write about him freely. If you wrote a story about Fester Cat, Magrs might think it's rude and invasive but he couldn't, actually, sue you about it.

So like… probably A Year Since… passes Rule 4 in a distant Magrsversey way. But it doesn't have Panda or anything in it to make us ask the question in the first place. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 20:47, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm still not convinced. Fester's fictional personality seems hard to disentangle from the personality which Magrs "actually" projected on the real cat as his owner. How much of it was the cat's "real" personality vs. being in the eye of the beholder seems like a rude and difficult thing for a Wiki (or a court) to try and formally rule upon. What's left is his history with some DWU characters, so if some Fester or Bernard story had tangible references to fictional events in either of the Cat books, that might count? But really the licensed DWU element would be "the details of the plot of Story of Fester Cat" moreso than Fester himself. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 21:02, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

And Today, You series

Hi, thank you for your editing work on adding credits for And Today, You and so on; for obvious reasons I can't edit them myself, but I would like to say that I think it should generally be sorted as Cwej: The Series, not as "Other"/"Various". Naturally the 10kD or WARSONG Wiki would view it otherwise, but it seems to me that when faced with a crossover that's an entry in both a DWU series and some non-DWU ones, the DWU one should take precedence for such matters; it'd be more informative than "Other", certainly. --Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 12:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Hey! This page again — User:Borisashton has put an {{inuse}} tag on it (I believe because he's working on a plot summary)! That means no one but him is allowed to edit it for the next 72 hours or until he removes it, whichever happens first. (In the meantime you can of course put suggested edits on the talk page.) --Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 21:26, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

T:POINT

Well, yes, almost a textbook example thereof. If (as I infer) the real point is that a literalist interpretation of classic Rule 4 statements is fundamentally silly, then make that point, don't pretend to be doing a different thing in order to prove that point: that's exactly what T:POINT is meant to be about. (Though as it stands I think such a discussion basically falls within the remit of the all-consuming R4BP Thread to which, yes, I really should return at last, now you come to mention it…) --Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 14:27, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the message

Just wanted to say hey, thanks for the message, as I had no idea about this shift. I never thought of myself as a senior admin, until I realised just how long I'd been on the old wiki. --Tangerineduel / talk 04:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Re: Hi there (T:WIKIFY OWN)

Oh, my apologies! As a long time lurker but very very rare wiki editor, I had just been keeping an eye on the anthology page since publication and decided to go ahead and start some stub pages since no-one had done so yet. My mistake. How should I resolve this? Should I just remove my author and story pages, or maybe leave the latter in its current stub form without further edits? --IntuitiveRevelations ☎ 23:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Ah, ok. I'll leave them as is and avoid touching them in the future. I might also post a comment in the respective talk pages, just to own up to the error for future editors / if an admin wants to take action. Thanks for the help! --IntuitiveRevelations ☎ 12:07, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Re: NOTCOVERED

I may I fear have been slightly sleep-deprived when I made that edit. NOTCOVERED should certainly remain on /Non-valid_sources subpages, to prevent confusion with merely invalid sources. However, it should not be used in "#Continuity_to_non-covered_sources" subsections, because by definition the sources cited in those sections will be non-covered; it tells our reader nothing to add the prefix there. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 14:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)