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[[File:13 & Yaz FotF.jpg|thumb|The [[Thirteenth Doctor]] and (what's meant to be) [[Yaz]]. ([[COMIC]]: ''[[Fear of the Future (comic story)|Fear of the Future]]'')]]Can it be claimed that this depiction of Yaz is whitewashing? It is, but it currently just says "Oddly, Yaz is depicted as having uncharacteristically light skin." [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:08, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
[[File:13 & Yaz FotF.jpg|thumb|The [[Thirteenth Doctor]] and (what's meant to be) [[Yaz]]. ([[COMIC]]: ''[[Fear of the Future (comic story)|Fear of the Future]]'')]]Can it be claimed that this depiction of Yaz is whitewashing? It is, but it currently just says "Oddly, Yaz is depicted as having uncharacteristically light skin." [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:08, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
: (I'm essentially asking if it can be mentioned as '[[whitewashing]]' on this page) [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:23, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
:: Personally, I do not think this is a case of whitewashing. To me, this feels like a production error, probably due to the printing process rendering inks in the wrong shade; you ''can'' tell the tones of the skin between Thirteen and Yaz ''are'' different. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 17:11, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
[[Image:Yaz Fear of the Future.jpg|thumb]]
::: About it potentially being a production error: the fact there is one single panel where her skin is suddenly way closer to her actual skin colour makes me unsure. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:42, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
:::: Whether it's a production error or an intentional decision, it just feels... ''off'' to me - and to my [[mother]], too; she couldn't identify who it was. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:53, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
::::: (also, I had initially only seen [[2 (number)|2]] images, at [https://twitter.com/spoorkk/status/1539825669777096704 this link]) [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::: I really do not believe intentional whitewashing would've gotten past the editors and the BBC. Hence why I think it's an error. But it is off, I agree. Perhaps a statement will be issued in the next few days by DWM on Twitter, clarifying the situation? <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 20:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::: I certainly expect they'll say something about it, seeing people's reactions on [[Twitter]] (a space they're known to patrol). [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:58, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
:: So, what was the conclusion to this? Did they release a Twitter statement? [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
::: No responses that I've been made aware of. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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The Thirteenth Doctor and (what's meant to be) Yaz. (COMIC: Fear of the Future)

Can it be claimed that this depiction of Yaz is whitewashing? It is, but it currently just says "Oddly, Yaz is depicted as having uncharacteristically light skin." Cookieboy 2005 16:08, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

(I'm essentially asking if it can be mentioned as 'whitewashing' on this page) Cookieboy 2005 16:23, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Personally, I do not think this is a case of whitewashing. To me, this feels like a production error, probably due to the printing process rendering inks in the wrong shade; you can tell the tones of the skin between Thirteen and Yaz are different. 17:11, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Yaz Fear of the Future.jpg
About it potentially being a production error: the fact there is one single panel where her skin is suddenly way closer to her actual skin colour makes me unsure. WaltK 18:42, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Whether it's a production error or an intentional decision, it just feels... off to me - and to my mother, too; she couldn't identify who it was. Cookieboy 2005 19:53, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
(also, I had initially only seen 2 images, at this link) Cookieboy 2005 20:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
I really do not believe intentional whitewashing would've gotten past the editors and the BBC. Hence why I think it's an error. But it is off, I agree. Perhaps a statement will be issued in the next few days by DWM on Twitter, clarifying the situation? 20:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
I certainly expect they'll say something about it, seeing people's reactions on Twitter (a space they're known to patrol). Cookieboy 2005 20:58, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
So, what was the conclusion to this? Did they release a Twitter statement? BananaClownMan 07:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
No responses that I've been made aware of. WaltK 21:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)