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Now, I'm aware that the whole [[Forum:The LEGO Dimensions Conundrum, Reconsidered ''LEGO Dimensions'' coverage debate]] is still ongoing, but I feel relatively confident in opening ''this'' discussion here since it relates to this webcast and others like it. | Now, I'm aware that the whole [[Forum:The LEGO Dimensions Conundrum, Reconsidered|''LEGO Dimensions'' coverage debate]] is still ongoing, but I feel relatively confident in opening ''this'' discussion here since it relates to this webcast and others like it. | ||
Basically, all of the non-DWU locations in these webcasts are covered on the wiki ''without'' any acknowledgement of them existing in alternate dimensions. I think they ''should'' be covered as such, because that's the clear intent. | Basically, all of the non-DWU locations in these webcasts are covered on the wiki ''without'' any acknowledgement of them existing in alternate dimensions. I think they ''should'' be covered as such, because that's the clear intent. | ||
Follow-up question: if we do cover these dimensions, do we call them by their in-game-but-not-necessarily-diegetic names, or "Alternate universe 1", "Alternate universe 2", etc.? [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | Follow-up question: if we do cover these dimensions, do we call them by their in-game-but-not-necessarily-diegetic names, or "Alternate universe 1", "Alternate universe 2", etc.? [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
: Yes, I very much think they should be covered as the correct "dimensions" (categorised under "[[:category:Parallel universes|Parallel universes]]") - just not sure if it should wait until the debate ends, since I feel covering the game'll make naming easier. We could go for either names like "Adventure Time universe", "Ghostbusters (2016) universe", etc., or we could go for names like "Land of Ooo's universe"/"Finn the Human's universe"/etc., "Abby Yates's universe", etc. I don't think "Universe 1", etc. would be very helpful not only for covering these webcasts, but for covering the game itself, since even putting aside the fact that they're not very clear, I'm not even sure ''what order'' they'd be in. Order in the main story? Order of portals on [[Vorton (LEGO Dimensions)|Vorton]] (and the Shard)? [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: Ideally we should do [[Parallel universe (Adventure Time)]] and so on, but this isn't technically a type of dab term allowed on-Wiki, but I want to open a forum thread eventually to allow characters originating in non-DWU media to have dab terms of their respective series/franchise. It's just so much more user-friendly. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 00:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
::: Well the rub there is that e.g. the "''Gremlins'' universe" seen in these ''isn't'' the actual ''Gremlins'' universe; calling it "Universe (''Gremlins'')" as if it were the primary universe of the overall franchise would be misleading. The DWU might be an exception, but it is well-understood that the vast majority of the dimensions in ''LEGO Dimensions'' are loosy-goosy alternatives to the original media, not depictions of their primary timelines. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::(Lego Gremlins) might work. To be analogous with Lego Lord of the Rings and the Gandalf stuff in the thread. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::(In general I'd be skeptical of adding this dab term like Epsilon suggests. But I'd have to see the proposal, and this is how I think we'd do it here.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::: As a quick example, so as to not get entirely off-topic, [[Aloysius Parker]] used to be at [[Parker (Mr. Steelman)]] when [[Parker (Thunderbirds)]] would be a lot more helpful. Such dab terms wouldn't see common use as crossover characters rarely require dab terms but on occasion they do and I think we can do better. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 09:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
Yeah, I'd like to see in depth reasoning. This strikes me immediately as a bad idea because it undermines our normal system of dab terms in ways that [[T:DAB IU]] and [[T:DAB OTHER]] do not. (Namely, they're story names as well.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
: Having played the game again, it seems the universes are referred to with names such as "DC Comics World" and "Harry Potter World", so perhaps we could use those? I see a couple pages have just been created, but I'm not sure about the names (I'm aware I suggested them, but I hadn't checked in the game itself for names) - I feel that either the names given (non-diagetically, I believe) in the game or names based on elements from the universes would be more appropriate. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: The main issue I see with "Harry Potter World" is... [[Harry Potter World|the name's taken]], so if we did that it'd have to be "Harry Potter World (universe)" or something. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
::: Any thoughts on this? There's currently some discrepancy between different universe pages, with stuff like both [[Adventure Time World]] and [[Ghostbusters (2016) universe]]. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::: For now, I think I'll move them to be in-line with what the game calls them - if people disagree, they can feel free to voice their concerns here. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 18:09, 23 November 2024
Acknowledging the dimensions[[edit source]]
Now, I'm aware that the whole LEGO Dimensions coverage debate is still ongoing, but I feel relatively confident in opening this discussion here since it relates to this webcast and others like it.
Basically, all of the non-DWU locations in these webcasts are covered on the wiki without any acknowledgement of them existing in alternate dimensions. I think they should be covered as such, because that's the clear intent.
Follow-up question: if we do cover these dimensions, do we call them by their in-game-but-not-necessarily-diegetic names, or "Alternate universe 1", "Alternate universe 2", etc.? WaltK ☎ 23:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I very much think they should be covered as the correct "dimensions" (categorised under "Parallel universes") - just not sure if it should wait until the debate ends, since I feel covering the game'll make naming easier. We could go for either names like "Adventure Time universe", "Ghostbusters (2016) universe", etc., or we could go for names like "Land of Ooo's universe"/"Finn the Human's universe"/etc., "Abby Yates's universe", etc. I don't think "Universe 1", etc. would be very helpful not only for covering these webcasts, but for covering the game itself, since even putting aside the fact that they're not very clear, I'm not even sure what order they'd be in. Order in the main story? Order of portals on Vorton (and the Shard)? Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 23:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ideally we should do Parallel universe (Adventure Time) and so on, but this isn't technically a type of dab term allowed on-Wiki, but I want to open a forum thread eventually to allow characters originating in non-DWU media to have dab terms of their respective series/franchise. It's just so much more user-friendly. 00:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Well the rub there is that e.g. the "Gremlins universe" seen in these isn't the actual Gremlins universe; calling it "Universe (Gremlins)" as if it were the primary universe of the overall franchise would be misleading. The DWU might be an exception, but it is well-understood that the vast majority of the dimensions in LEGO Dimensions are loosy-goosy alternatives to the original media, not depictions of their primary timelines. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 00:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- (Lego Gremlins) might work. To be analogous with Lego Lord of the Rings and the Gandalf stuff in the thread. Najawin ☎ 03:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- (In general I'd be skeptical of adding this dab term like Epsilon suggests. But I'd have to see the proposal, and this is how I think we'd do it here.) Najawin ☎ 03:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- As a quick example, so as to not get entirely off-topic, Aloysius Parker used to be at Parker (Mr. Steelman) when Parker (Thunderbirds) would be a lot more helpful. Such dab terms wouldn't see common use as crossover characters rarely require dab terms but on occasion they do and I think we can do better. 09:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd like to see in depth reasoning. This strikes me immediately as a bad idea because it undermines our normal system of dab terms in ways that T:DAB IU and T:DAB OTHER do not. (Namely, they're story names as well.) Najawin ☎ 18:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Having played the game again, it seems the universes are referred to with names such as "DC Comics World" and "Harry Potter World", so perhaps we could use those? I see a couple pages have just been created, but I'm not sure about the names (I'm aware I suggested them, but I hadn't checked in the game itself for names) - I feel that either the names given (non-diagetically, I believe) in the game or names based on elements from the universes would be more appropriate. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 17:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- The main issue I see with "Harry Potter World" is... the name's taken, so if we did that it'd have to be "Harry Potter World (universe)" or something. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 18:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Any thoughts on this? There's currently some discrepancy between different universe pages, with stuff like both Adventure Time World and Ghostbusters (2016) universe. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 12:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- For now, I think I'll move them to be in-line with what the game calls them - if people disagree, they can feel free to voice their concerns here. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 18:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
