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Hi, I hope nobody minds but I added a column to the tables that were there for the first 2 doctors. The first column for season 1-6 makes sense, but I think adding the Story column right after that so that people know what story it is, adds useful information for little cost. By elimination it also tells people which spans of the series are basically intact.
Hi, I hope nobody minds but I added a column to the tables that were there for the first 2 doctors. The first column for season 1-6 makes sense, but I think adding the Story column right after that so that people know what story it is, adds useful information for little cost. By elimination it also tells people which spans of the series are basically intact.


Besides this, which organizes on the basis of [[Story]], I would also like to construct a table that organizes on the basis of [[Episode]]. Like basically we could list the overall episode number in the series. This table would be bigger, perhaps hostable on a sub-page, and have a row for each individual episode. This would allow us to list the actual episode titles.
Besides this, which organizes on the basis of Story, I would also like to construct a table that organizes on the basis of [[Episode]]. Like basically we could list the overall episode number in the series. This table would be bigger, perhaps hostable on a sub-page, and have a row for each individual episode. This would allow us to list the actual episode titles.


We could still have a 'story' column, it would just list both the story number and the story title together. If anyone knows how to code tables well, you could even do it so that it is a shared box so that the story spans multiple rows. I'm going to look into seeing if I can do that for the existing 'season' column. [[User talk:Tycio|+]]Y[[Special:Contributions/Tycio|c]] 03:24, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
We could still have a 'story' column, it would just list both the story number and the story title together. If anyone knows how to code tables well, you could even do it so that it is a shared box so that the story spans multiple rows. I'm going to look into seeing if I can do that for the existing 'season' column. [[User talk:Tycio|+]]Y[[Special:Contributions/Tycio|c]] 03:24, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
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== More found? ==
== More found? ==


Rumours have been going around that around 90 of the 106 lost episodes have been found. Apparently two days ago [[Ian Levine]] was dismissing the rumours but as of [http://io9.com/maybe-those-doctor-who-missing-episodes-rumors-are-true-514194463 a few hours ago] he started tweeting that he had apparently received proof. Nothing is confirmed yet, but if true the 90 episodes are said to be all 44 of Hartnell's missing episodes and 46 (of 68) of Troughton's missing episodes. - [[User:The Light6|The Light6]] [[User talk:The Light6|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:58, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
Rumours have been going around that around 90 of the 106 lost episodes have been found. Apparently two days ago [[Ian Levine]] was dismissing the rumours but as of [http://io9.com/maybe-those-doctor-who-missing-episodes-rumors-are-true-514194463 a few hours ago] he started tweeting that he had apparently received proof. Nothing is confirmed yet, but if true the 90 episodes are said to be all 44 of Hartnell's missing episodes and 46 (of 62) of Troughton's missing episodes. - [[User:The Light6|The Light6]] [[User talk:The Light6|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:58, June 19, 2013 (UTC)<br>
 
:As exciting as this news might be, this isn't the place for discussing the rumors. This page is for discussing the editing of the page. You can bring this up in [[Howling:The Howling]]. Thanks![[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:08, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
Does anybody know if any of the missing episode were play on New Jersey or Pennsylvania in the 1970.
 
== Missing table and retrieved section  ==
 
I added a table with the count of missing episode.  I use rowspan for the totals, but look is not satisfactory  Any suggestion on how to improve the look.
 
Also, I suggest we add a section with a list of which episode was retrieved which year and from which source.
 
 
--[[Special:Contributions/198.48.204.201|198.48.204.201]]<sup>[[User talk:198.48.204.201#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:48, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Source ==
 
The following paragraph comes from this article:
* "In October 2013, it was announced that 9 complete episodes of Doctor Who had been found at a TV relay station in Nigeria. The episodes in question were found by archive television recovery expert Phillip Morris. Five of the episodes were from The Enemy of the World; episode 3, already existing in the BBC Archive, makes The Enemy of the World a complete story. The other 4 episodes were from The Web of Fear, which up until now had only episode 1 existing in the BBC Archive. Episodes 2, 4, 5 and 6 are now back in the BBC Archive; however, Episode 3 is still missing."
This information is really only partially correct. It seems that eleven episodes were found, including the two that already existed from these two stories. '''A source is needed for this information''', so that it can be corrected with the actual facts; otherwise, this information will be removed until it can be properly sourced. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:41, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Lost media rename ==
Personally, I am against the rename mentioned in the {{tlx|cleanup}} template. I'm all for a separate [[lost media]] page, but missing episodes have a lot of details, information, nuance and significance that other forms of lost media don't necessarily have. While not that long, I feel that it would be unwieldy to try and fit all of the information currently on this page into a more general lost media page and I actually feel that this page could easily be longer. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:53, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 
: I agree with Bongo50, for the same reasons they outlined. Sorry I've nothing more to add, but wanted to express my view. — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 17:43, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 
:: Yeah, despite the editor who ''added'' said template, I think having pages such as this one remain independent will likely be a better course of action. The only thing I'd want, in this case, then, is the lead to describe how a missing episode is a subset of lost media. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 18:02, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 
:::Yes. It would make no sense to unnecessarily make this page specifically about the TV episodes into a more complex and messy page about all lost media because the missing TV episode phenomenon spans so much by itself. No reason to complicate things. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:27, 2 September 2023

Lost episode redirect?[[edit source]]

Can "lost episode" be added as a redirect, since the episodes are frequently said to be lost. Some people search for the term "lost episode" as well, and when you do, the "missing episode" page doesn't appear till rather far down the list. I'm pretty sure these are good reasons to add "lost episode" as a redirect. --The Thirteenth Doctor 15:31, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. That's what I would have looked for. Moose42 talk to me 18:12, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Tables[[edit source]]

Hi, I hope nobody minds but I added a column to the tables that were there for the first 2 doctors. The first column for season 1-6 makes sense, but I think adding the Story column right after that so that people know what story it is, adds useful information for little cost. By elimination it also tells people which spans of the series are basically intact.

Besides this, which organizes on the basis of Story, I would also like to construct a table that organizes on the basis of Episode. Like basically we could list the overall episode number in the series. This table would be bigger, perhaps hostable on a sub-page, and have a row for each individual episode. This would allow us to list the actual episode titles.

We could still have a 'story' column, it would just list both the story number and the story title together. If anyone knows how to code tables well, you could even do it so that it is a shared box so that the story spans multiple rows. I'm going to look into seeing if I can do that for the existing 'season' column. +Yc 03:24, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

More found?[[edit source]]

Rumours have been going around that around 90 of the 106 lost episodes have been found. Apparently two days ago Ian Levine was dismissing the rumours but as of a few hours ago he started tweeting that he had apparently received proof. Nothing is confirmed yet, but if true the 90 episodes are said to be all 44 of Hartnell's missing episodes and 46 (of 62) of Troughton's missing episodes. - The Light6 05:58, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

As exciting as this news might be, this isn't the place for discussing the rumors. This page is for discussing the editing of the page. You can bring this up in Howling:The Howling. Thanks!Shambala108 14:08, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Does anybody know if any of the missing episode were play on New Jersey or Pennsylvania in the 1970.

Missing table and retrieved section[[edit source]]

I added a table with the count of missing episode. I use rowspan for the totals, but look is not satisfactory Any suggestion on how to improve the look.

Also, I suggest we add a section with a list of which episode was retrieved which year and from which source.


--198.48.204.201talk to me 17:48, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Source[[edit source]]

The following paragraph comes from this article:

  • "In October 2013, it was announced that 9 complete episodes of Doctor Who had been found at a TV relay station in Nigeria. The episodes in question were found by archive television recovery expert Phillip Morris. Five of the episodes were from The Enemy of the World; episode 3, already existing in the BBC Archive, makes The Enemy of the World a complete story. The other 4 episodes were from The Web of Fear, which up until now had only episode 1 existing in the BBC Archive. Episodes 2, 4, 5 and 6 are now back in the BBC Archive; however, Episode 3 is still missing."

This information is really only partially correct. It seems that eleven episodes were found, including the two that already existed from these two stories. A source is needed for this information, so that it can be corrected with the actual facts; otherwise, this information will be removed until it can be properly sourced. Shambala108 15:41, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Lost media rename[[edit source]]

Personally, I am against the rename mentioned in the {{cleanup}} template. I'm all for a separate lost media page, but missing episodes have a lot of details, information, nuance and significance that other forms of lost media don't necessarily have. While not that long, I feel that it would be unwieldy to try and fit all of the information currently on this page into a more general lost media page and I actually feel that this page could easily be longer. Bongo50 11:53, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree with Bongo50, for the same reasons they outlined. Sorry I've nothing more to add, but wanted to express my view. — Fractal Doctor @ 17:43, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, despite the editor who added said template, I think having pages such as this one remain independent will likely be a better course of action. The only thing I'd want, in this case, then, is the lead to describe how a missing episode is a subset of lost media. 18:02, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Yes. It would make no sense to unnecessarily make this page specifically about the TV episodes into a more complex and messy page about all lost media because the missing TV episode phenomenon spans so much by itself. No reason to complicate things. Danniesen 19:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)