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==Moved old talk page==
== Infobox problem ==
Moved the old talk page which was very long and had quite a number of different headings. New talk page means that all discussion is much easier to locate and add discussion on. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]] 17:39, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
==Reverted edits==
I sort of understand some of my reverted drive-by edits on the pages (some of which were inconsequential anyway), but why were my edits here from earlier reverted?[[Special:Contributions/94.8.120.120| ]][[Special:Contributions/94.8.120.120|94.8.120.120]] 18:53, April 24, 2011 (UTC)


== Rassilon, wtf? ==
The script release part of the Infobox says "Part 1 online here Part 2 and here". I can't find a way to fix this in the source editor or visiual editor myself, so wanted to bring it up so someone who knows what they're doing can.


Where the hell did Rassilon come from anyways? He was pretty damn dead in the old show, his time having been long before the Doctor or the Master even came around. How did he recognize them? And why is he such a douchebag? Certainly it would have made much more sense if they stuck with Omega...
[[User:ThomasRWade|ThomasRWade]] [[User talk:ThomasRWade|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:27, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


:Most likely he was revived because the Time Lords were losing the Time War - and would certainly have come across the Doctor there. (Though he implies that the Doctor/Master conflict is significant). [[User:Beardouk|Beardouk]] [[User talk:Beardouk|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:50, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
: It seems like it is because the 'Part 1' and 'Part 2' text is specified. The infobox isn't built to handle this and extra fields would likely need to be added to make it work. For now, I've removed the 'Part 1' and 'Part 2' text. [[User:Bongolium500|Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500)]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


::With that talk about the middle of the Time War, and their resurrection of the Master, I thought they were implying that pretty much anybody they'd deem militaristically relevant was being resurrected. I thought they established him pretty well as a narcissist, at least in these episodes. As such, I'm sure that Rassilon's knowledge that the Doctor broke ranks and sided with the rest of the universe against him, to snatch what he's convinced himself is victory right from under his nose, is enough to explain his attitude. How was he in the prior stories? [[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:45, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
: With the shooting scripts for Parts 1 and 2 now available on BBC Writersroom, I'm struggling to add two more scripturl links to the Infobox, alongside the Script Release archived versions. [[User:Mister Mavity]] [[User talk:Mister Mavity|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:50, 9 March 2024 (UTC)


== Companions ==
: Managed to fix it by adding references to the BBC Writersroom script links in the Infobox, along with the other Series 4 and Specials scripts. [[User:Mister Mavity]] [[User talk:Mister Mavity|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
I don't feel that Rossiter and Addams did enough to qualify as companions in this episode. [[User:Holbenilord|Holbenilord]]<sup>[[User talk:Holbenilord|Talk]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Holbenilord|₪]] 18:25, December 11, 2011 (UTC)
 
== Finding this article ==
I had a hell of a time finding this article. Type "The End of Time" into the search field and it doesn't take you anywhere, just to a general index of articles with the word "time" in them, and when I tried it "the end of time" lower case I got a message saying there was no such article. I had to go digging to find the title of the previous story and come in from that direction. Has Wikia discontinued the use of redirects? [[Special:Contributions/68.146.80.110|68.146.80.110]] 05:14, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 
==The Master's disappearence==
One thing is REALLY annoying me on this wiki regarding The Master's "disapperence" at the end of this episode, is that the pages [[The Master]] & The Master (Harold Saxon) both previously listed The Master and being taken back into the time war with [[Rassilon]] & The TimeLords. However I have yet to see conclusive production evidence of this fact i.e. Russell or someone stating this is fact (and as you can never really kill off the classic villian's like The Master/Davros etc) surely it makes me sense to assume The Master "died" burning up his own life-force as the [[Tenth Doctor]] states he is doing earlier on in the episode. Who agrees?? [[User:0TheTenthDoctor0|0TheTenthDoctor0]] 17:00, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
== References > Individuals > Jimbo; question ==
 
References > Individuals > Jimbo:
Under Individuals, Jimbo is indicating that it was set up as a link with no page. Do we really want a page for this? I understand wanting a link to more info, but would something off-site be the best choice? M. Gail P. 08:12, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
:It's showing as a redlink.
:It's not linking off site. The redlink indicates a page has not been created. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:12, February 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Sorry I was not clear. I know red means there is no link. My question is really would it be better to make it link off site or kill the formatting which makes it red? _Or do the implied request option and do make a page on this wiki?_ The fact that the formatting is there means that someone thought it needed a link to more information. I just don't think it is something which needs a page on the Tardis wiki itself. M. Gail P. 05:07, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
::Edit above comment - add "_Or do ... this wiki?_" M. Gail P. 05:59, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
:::Usually, if it's a noun, it gets a page, no matter how little information we have. Even if it's just a mention by a character, it still gets a page. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:08, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Comic Book Guy?; 2.4 Rewrite ==
 
I'm pretty sure I speak for a lot of people when I say that "Worst! Rescue! Ever!" isn't used just because RTD's heard it from the Simpsons. I've known that phrase for a long time and used it outside of the Simpsons- I've only watched about two or three episodes in my life.
I'm thinking we should take the reference of 'Comic Book Guy' and edit it to suggest a "possible reference". We're not in RTD's mind so we don't know if he's done it to create a deliberate link to that show. People on this Wikia get told numerous times to only add a "factual" point that you know to be actually fact so here, we must apply that rule too.
Thank you :)<br>
[[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<small><sup><font color="green">Talk</font></sup></small>]] 09:06, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Uncredited cast ==
 
* [[Graske]] - [[Jimmy Vee]]
* [[Jask]] - [[Dan Starkey]]
* [[Time Lord (The End of Time)|Time Lord]] - [[Roger Bailey]]
 
I left Vee and Starkey in, as they're very clearly the same Graske and Sontaran actors as the credited roles of [[Krislok]], [[Skorr]] and [[Strax]]. I couldn't see Bailey's name anywhere in the credits, however. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 15:58, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Canon or Non-Canon? ==
I wanted to ask whether this story should even be considered Canon anymore now that the Doctor Who 50th Anniversery Special has come in and practically erased the repercussions of the Time Lock that sealed Galifrey in the Time War along with all those other abominations. Or did Galifrey enter Earth's Orbit before everything that happened in the last 20 minutes of that Special took place? I know at the beginning they mentioned that the Galifrey High Council had convened, but alot of the events in this special hinged on the Time Lords having been aware that the Doctor had stolen The Moment, which they didn't really become aware of until after the High Council was in session, or is my chronology all messed up?
 
And even if the Time Lord High Council was prematurely aware that the Moment had been stolen, that means that no one notified the General-In-Chief of the entire Galifreyan Military that the strongest weapon in the known Universe had been stolen, until he figured it out. And did the Moment even go about setting up a Time Lock? I got the impression that she didn't and that the Doctor just assumed she did.
 
ARGH THIS IS SO CONFUSING!!!
 
So is this story still canon? And if it isn't still Canon, what does that say for everything that happened After it? [[User:Cledwin83|Cledwin83]] [[User talk:Cledwin83|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:53, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:30, 12 March 2024

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Infobox problem[[edit source]]

The script release part of the Infobox says "Part 1 online here Part 2 and here". I can't find a way to fix this in the source editor or visiual editor myself, so wanted to bring it up so someone who knows what they're doing can.

ThomasRWade 22:27, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

It seems like it is because the 'Part 1' and 'Part 2' text is specified. The infobox isn't built to handle this and extra fields would likely need to be added to make it work. For now, I've removed the 'Part 1' and 'Part 2' text. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) 19:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
With the shooting scripts for Parts 1 and 2 now available on BBC Writersroom, I'm struggling to add two more scripturl links to the Infobox, alongside the Script Release archived versions. User:Mister Mavity 10:50, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Managed to fix it by adding references to the BBC Writersroom script links in the Infobox, along with the other Series 4 and Specials scripts. User:Mister Mavity 15:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)