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== Notable Aliases == | |||
The conscencus at the discussion [[forum: Notable Aliases]] is that one-off nicknames that were never really used, particularly if they were only used as a joke (the rotemeister being a good example) should be removed. Therefore I am going to remove some of them from this page. I will include a list of them on this talk page after I remove them. If you disagree with this then discuss it on the panopticon page that I linked here, and if you disagree with the removal of a specific name than discuss it on this talk page.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 17:58, September 17, 2011 (UTC) | |||
Here's a list of the names I removed. I removed both joke names, and names that were really descriptions of the Doctor rather than names for him. This problem really only seems to effect new series characters, so I didn't have to remove an aliases from before the ninth Doctor. Here is what I removed: | |||
'''Ninth Doctor''' | |||
*My Executioner | |||
*Housemate | |||
- | '''Tenth Doctor''' | ||
*The Lonely God | |||
*Traveller Without a Home | |||
*Skinny Idiot | |||
*Little Physcician | |||
*Doctor-Man | |||
*Martian | |||
*Lonely Angel | |||
*Great Big Outer Space Dunce | |||
*Mr. Conditional Clause | |||
*Father (unless you want to add this to every character who has children) | |||
*Pretty Boy | |||
*He Who Dances in Lonely Places | |||
*The Destroyer of Worlds | |||
'''Eleventh Doctor''' | |||
*Bad, bad boy | |||
*Mr. Grumpy Face | |||
*Uncle Doctor | |||
*Voice of God | |||
*The Man of Peace | |||
[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 18:13, September 17, 2011 (UTC) | |||
:: | ==what a headache== | ||
ANY aliases used by or given to the Doctor COUNT. Put them back. Do you know how hard the rest of us look to find them? Ugh... This is ridiculous. Come on. Nicknames don't always get repeated. So, what;s wrong with what was there, hmm? (Just curious) Nobody else complained. Well, I give up. (Sigh...)[[User:Forgetful 10th doctor fan|Forgetful 10th doctor fan]] 00:13, September 29, 2011 (UTC) | |||
well, actually, there is a very long discussion that was at the panopticon which was linked to above where just about everyone agreed that one off names and descriptions don't count. and i agree. for example, if i called you skinny idiot once like i'm doing here, would you then consider it an alliace of yourself? would you then turn around every time someone calls out "skinny idiot" because you think they're refering to you? unless the name is either notable, i.e. a major part of a story line e.g. harold saxon for the master or used often e.g. john smith for the doctor or something the doctor askes to be called specifically for the purpose of being an alliace (not just jokingly) then it can't really be considered an alliace, no matter how hard you looked for them. [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] <sup>[[User talk:Imamadmad|talk to me]]</sup> 08:51, February 3, 2012 (UTC) | |||
==War Doctor== | |||
I added this to "Behind the Scenes" because, thus far, he has only been referred to by this name in the closing credits of the Night of the Doctor minisode, and in an interview with John Hurt, but not as yet on screen. If the name is used on screen in a later episode, it can be moved accordingly. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.70.124|68.146.70.124]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.70.124#top|talk to me]]</sup> 14:47, November 17, 2013 (UTC) | |||
:: | ==Clever Boy isn't an alias== | ||
I'm going to "be bold" and delete "Clever Boy" - that's not a nickname or an alias, it's an adjective/descriptor. Folks need to know the difference. Chin-boy is most definitely an affectation (and one Oswin might have continued to use had she survived), but "you clever boy" is not an alias or nickname in any sense of the word. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.70.124|68.146.70.124]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.70.124#top|talk to me]]</sup> 14:50, November 17, 2013 (UTC) | |||
==Sigma Theta can't be an alias between Gallifreyan contemporaries== | |||
Consider that two Gallifreyans who knew each other well were talking in Gallifreyan language and we were hearing English only because of TARDIS translation. Gallifreyans aren't Greek, and Greek isn't English...except in mathematics. | |||
Consider how the name Melody Pond became River Song: English to Gamman back to English translation. In English math, theta is a degree of rotation, or turn. Sigma, in statistics, is a summation. Theta Sigma is the English mathematical equivalent of "summation of turns" while the shortened form of "Thete" is a fond way of a familiar contemporary calling him "twisted". Consider now how the Doctor has been saying his name each time he calls himself a madman, and consider how the TARDIS uses this non-mathematic colloquial English synonym for his utterance. | |||
The question was hidden in plain sight, and so was its answer. --CL | |||
:What? [[Special:Contributions/217.42.180.60|217.42.180.60]]<sup>[[User talk:217.42.180.60#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:47, June 18, 2017 (UTC) | |||
== "The Timelord Victorious" == | |||
Would "The Timelord Victorious" from [[The Waters of Mars (TV story)]] also count as a Tenth Doctor alias? [[Special:Contributions/184.175.4.71|184.175.4.71]]<sup>[[User talk:184.175.4.71#top|talk to me]]</sup> 14:52, December 14, 2013 (UTC) | |||
--[[User:Doctor other|Doctor other]] [[User talk:Doctor other|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:39, March 9, 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Name == | |||
I think his truth name is Zagreus, name had a terrible history on gallifrey and this must be the secret. ZAGREUS | |||
: Please do not put speculation on talk pages, per [[Tardis:Discussion policy]].[[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:37, March 9, 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Clean up needed== | |||
There is a lot of duplicated information in this article, with the nicknames section containing many names already listed in the main alias section. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.52.234|68.146.52.234]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.52.234#top|talk to me]]</sup> 03:17, December 19, 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Steven Moffat knows the Doctor's name? == | |||
"During Comic-Con 2012, Steven Moffat, the head writer, has confirmed that he knows what the Doctor's real name is, although the said name has not, as of yet, appeared in-narrative" | |||
Can somebody give me a source for this, because it sounds like he was joking. I know that Doctor Who Answers wikia went through a similar thing with the 'Mildred' quotation, and these wikis obviously have a lot of users in common. In fact, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I saw this fact itself on that wiki somewhere, and it was concluded he was joking there (I'm pretty sure he said that William Hartnell told him or something). Basically, this page really needs a source for that. As is, it would be like if somebody posted that the Doctor's real name was Mildred, unsourced and without realising the joke. [[Special:Contributions/217.42.180.60|217.42.180.60]]<sup>[[User talk:217.42.180.60#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:44, June 18, 2017 (UTC) |
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Notable Aliases[[edit]]
The conscencus at the discussion forum: Notable Aliases is that one-off nicknames that were never really used, particularly if they were only used as a joke (the rotemeister being a good example) should be removed. Therefore I am going to remove some of them from this page. I will include a list of them on this talk page after I remove them. If you disagree with this then discuss it on the panopticon page that I linked here, and if you disagree with the removal of a specific name than discuss it on this talk page.Icecreamdif 17:58, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
Here's a list of the names I removed. I removed both joke names, and names that were really descriptions of the Doctor rather than names for him. This problem really only seems to effect new series characters, so I didn't have to remove an aliases from before the ninth Doctor. Here is what I removed:
Ninth Doctor
- My Executioner
- Housemate
Tenth Doctor
- The Lonely God
- Traveller Without a Home
- Skinny Idiot
- Little Physcician
- Doctor-Man
- Martian
- Lonely Angel
- Great Big Outer Space Dunce
- Mr. Conditional Clause
- Father (unless you want to add this to every character who has children)
- Pretty Boy
- He Who Dances in Lonely Places
- The Destroyer of Worlds
Eleventh Doctor
- Bad, bad boy
- Mr. Grumpy Face
- Uncle Doctor
- Voice of God
- The Man of Peace
Icecreamdif 18:13, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
what a headache[[edit]]
ANY aliases used by or given to the Doctor COUNT. Put them back. Do you know how hard the rest of us look to find them? Ugh... This is ridiculous. Come on. Nicknames don't always get repeated. So, what;s wrong with what was there, hmm? (Just curious) Nobody else complained. Well, I give up. (Sigh...)Forgetful 10th doctor fan 00:13, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
well, actually, there is a very long discussion that was at the panopticon which was linked to above where just about everyone agreed that one off names and descriptions don't count. and i agree. for example, if i called you skinny idiot once like i'm doing here, would you then consider it an alliace of yourself? would you then turn around every time someone calls out "skinny idiot" because you think they're refering to you? unless the name is either notable, i.e. a major part of a story line e.g. harold saxon for the master or used often e.g. john smith for the doctor or something the doctor askes to be called specifically for the purpose of being an alliace (not just jokingly) then it can't really be considered an alliace, no matter how hard you looked for them. Imamadmad talk to me 08:51, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
War Doctor[[edit]]
I added this to "Behind the Scenes" because, thus far, he has only been referred to by this name in the closing credits of the Night of the Doctor minisode, and in an interview with John Hurt, but not as yet on screen. If the name is used on screen in a later episode, it can be moved accordingly. 68.146.70.124talk to me 14:47, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Clever Boy isn't an alias[[edit]]
I'm going to "be bold" and delete "Clever Boy" - that's not a nickname or an alias, it's an adjective/descriptor. Folks need to know the difference. Chin-boy is most definitely an affectation (and one Oswin might have continued to use had she survived), but "you clever boy" is not an alias or nickname in any sense of the word. 68.146.70.124talk to me 14:50, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Sigma Theta can't be an alias between Gallifreyan contemporaries[[edit]]
Consider that two Gallifreyans who knew each other well were talking in Gallifreyan language and we were hearing English only because of TARDIS translation. Gallifreyans aren't Greek, and Greek isn't English...except in mathematics.
Consider how the name Melody Pond became River Song: English to Gamman back to English translation. In English math, theta is a degree of rotation, or turn. Sigma, in statistics, is a summation. Theta Sigma is the English mathematical equivalent of "summation of turns" while the shortened form of "Thete" is a fond way of a familiar contemporary calling him "twisted". Consider now how the Doctor has been saying his name each time he calls himself a madman, and consider how the TARDIS uses this non-mathematic colloquial English synonym for his utterance.
The question was hidden in plain sight, and so was its answer. --CL
- What? 217.42.180.60talk to me 15:47, June 18, 2017 (UTC)
"The Timelord Victorious"[[edit]]
Would "The Timelord Victorious" from The Waters of Mars (TV story) also count as a Tenth Doctor alias? 184.175.4.71talk to me 14:52, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
--Doctor other ☎ 04:39, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
Name[[edit]]
I think his truth name is Zagreus, name had a terrible history on gallifrey and this must be the secret. ZAGREUS
- Please do not put speculation on talk pages, per Tardis:Discussion policy.Shambala108 ☎ 17:37, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
Clean up needed[[edit]]
There is a lot of duplicated information in this article, with the nicknames section containing many names already listed in the main alias section. 68.146.52.234talk to me 03:17, December 19, 2015 (UTC)
Steven Moffat knows the Doctor's name?[[edit]]
"During Comic-Con 2012, Steven Moffat, the head writer, has confirmed that he knows what the Doctor's real name is, although the said name has not, as of yet, appeared in-narrative"
Can somebody give me a source for this, because it sounds like he was joking. I know that Doctor Who Answers wikia went through a similar thing with the 'Mildred' quotation, and these wikis obviously have a lot of users in common. In fact, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I saw this fact itself on that wiki somewhere, and it was concluded he was joking there (I'm pretty sure he said that William Hartnell told him or something). Basically, this page really needs a source for that. As is, it would be like if somebody posted that the Doctor's real name was Mildred, unsourced and without realising the joke. 217.42.180.60talk to me 15:44, June 18, 2017 (UTC)