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Recently, [[Hanging Gardens of Slarvia]] and [[Slarvian vine]]s made an appearance in the comic story ''[[Hacked (comic story)|Hacked]]''. No obvious connection to these Slarvians exist in that comic strip. Were Hanging Gardens or vines of maroon colour ever mentioned in stories about these Slarvians? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:50, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
Recently, [[Hanging Gardens of Slarvia]] and [[Slarvian vine]]s made an appearance in the comic story ''[[Hacked (comic story)|Hacked]]''. No obvious connection to these Slarvians exist in that comic strip. Were Hanging Gardens or vines of maroon colour ever mentioned in stories about these Slarvians? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:50, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
:The obvious connection is through [[Cavan Scott]], the writer of ''Hacked''. He has a history of mentioning Slarvians and Slarvia in his Dr Who work. The Slarvians were first mentioned in ''Project  Valhalla'' (which was written by Scott) many months before they actually appeared in ''Childhood Living'' (which was not written by Scott). Scott has also mentioned the Slarvians in ''Twilight's End'' and ''Project Wildthyme''. It's very possible that there are more mentions, but that's all I'm aware of. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">CoT</span>]]  [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span> ]] 21:28, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
:: Aha, so it's not completely random after all. I was going to discuss it with you anyway, since we seem to be virtually the only ones (so far) editing ''Hacked''. Essentially, I was not sure whether the same name was an accident or really meant to represent the same species. When you removed the Slarvian category from the gardens, I was afraid I speculated too much.
:: But what you say provides a nice link. I snooped around a little bit. Apparently, there is a whole story in DWU, ''[[Benny and Louise (short story)|Benny and Louise]]'', which happens on [[Slarvia]] (there seems to be a typo on the page where the planet is named). The info is from [http://www.drwhoguide.com/bs_n20.htm here]. Unfortunately, the Wiki page of the story is very basic. Still even the synapsis in the external link corroborates that Slarvia is the name of the planet. It seems hard to find DWU info on Slarvians since they originated from ''Tomorrow People'', apparently, and most links are from TP, not DWU.
:: Well, I do not plan to become a Slarvian editor. Let other Scottmen and Cavanophils sort them out. I only wanted to understand whether the Hanging Gardens and the vines are related to Slarvians from ''Childhood Living''.
:: If we both agree that they are, let's simply leave the Slarvian category on both pages. Actually, what you wrote above seems like a nice BHS for these two pages. But it's surely up to you: your knowledge, your rules.
:: I'll try to ping the editors of ''Benny and Louise'' to at least fix the typo. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:43, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
:::''Benny and Louise'' takes place on Slarvia.
:::I would like to caution against using the DWRG or DrWhoGuide for information, as they have been known in the past to actually misspell key character and place names. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:57, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
:::: Thanks for the confirmation. I'll use it to at least fix the name there so that others can find it in the future. Unfortunately, Thunderush, who edited that page, doesn't have the book either. Neither Google Books nor Amazon have any preview for the short story collection. And I agree that relying on secondary sources like this website is too dangerous. I guess it's only natural that the great Slarvian project is a little slow. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:18, July 10, 2016 (UTC)
:::::Just to be clear, I '''do''' have the book. I just haven't gotten around to working on it.
:::::And I will just post here for anyone reading this thread, that it is highly recommended when creating pages or adding content that you have the original source material handy. Relying on outside sources leads to replicating their mistakes. See [[Tardis:What does a citation mean?]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:51, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

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Recently, Hanging Gardens of Slarvia and Slarvian vines made an appearance in the comic story Hacked. No obvious connection to these Slarvians exist in that comic strip. Were Hanging Gardens or vines of maroon colour ever mentioned in stories about these Slarvians? Amorkuz 18:50, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

The obvious connection is through Cavan Scott, the writer of Hacked. He has a history of mentioning Slarvians and Slarvia in his Dr Who work. The Slarvians were first mentioned in Project Valhalla (which was written by Scott) many months before they actually appeared in Childhood Living (which was not written by Scott). Scott has also mentioned the Slarvians in Twilight's End and Project Wildthyme. It's very possible that there are more mentions, but that's all I'm aware of. CoT 21:28, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
Aha, so it's not completely random after all. I was going to discuss it with you anyway, since we seem to be virtually the only ones (so far) editing Hacked. Essentially, I was not sure whether the same name was an accident or really meant to represent the same species. When you removed the Slarvian category from the gardens, I was afraid I speculated too much.
But what you say provides a nice link. I snooped around a little bit. Apparently, there is a whole story in DWU, Benny and Louise, which happens on Slarvia (there seems to be a typo on the page where the planet is named). The info is from here. Unfortunately, the Wiki page of the story is very basic. Still even the synapsis in the external link corroborates that Slarvia is the name of the planet. It seems hard to find DWU info on Slarvians since they originated from Tomorrow People, apparently, and most links are from TP, not DWU.
Well, I do not plan to become a Slarvian editor. Let other Scottmen and Cavanophils sort them out. I only wanted to understand whether the Hanging Gardens and the vines are related to Slarvians from Childhood Living.
If we both agree that they are, let's simply leave the Slarvian category on both pages. Actually, what you wrote above seems like a nice BHS for these two pages. But it's surely up to you: your knowledge, your rules.
I'll try to ping the editors of Benny and Louise to at least fix the typo. Amorkuz 22:43, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
Benny and Louise takes place on Slarvia.
I would like to caution against using the DWRG or DrWhoGuide for information, as they have been known in the past to actually misspell key character and place names. Shambala108 22:57, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation. I'll use it to at least fix the name there so that others can find it in the future. Unfortunately, Thunderush, who edited that page, doesn't have the book either. Neither Google Books nor Amazon have any preview for the short story collection. And I agree that relying on secondary sources like this website is too dangerous. I guess it's only natural that the great Slarvian project is a little slow. Amorkuz 13:18, July 10, 2016 (UTC)
Just to be clear, I do have the book. I just haven't gotten around to working on it.
And I will just post here for anyone reading this thread, that it is highly recommended when creating pages or adding content that you have the original source material handy. Relying on outside sources leads to replicating their mistakes. See Tardis:What does a citation mean?. Shambala108 13:51, July 10, 2016 (UTC)