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Expect the dialogue to die for the continue expanding but cant seem to find any dialogue to bury so far....--[[User:Amxitsa|Amxitsa]] 16:23, 29 Mar 2005 (EST)
== "Most watched first episode for a new incarnation" ==


Perhaps the "dialogue to bury" section should be dropped. For one thing, it can compromise the neutral POV of the site. Simply including memorable dialogue from each story should be enough. --[[User:Freethinker1of1|Freethinker1of1]] 21:59, 30 Mar 2005 (EST)
: An immediate success, it remains, {{as of|2013|9|lc=y}}, the most-watched first episode for any new incarnation of [[the Doctor]]. Its 10.81 million [[BBC One]] rating bested the previous record-holder, ''[[Robot (TV story)|Robot]]'', and was not outdone  by either ''[[The Christmas Invasion (TV story)|The Christmas Invasion]]'' or ''[[The Eleventh Hour (TV story)|The Eleventh Hour]]''.


I agree with Freethinker on the last point but would argue that this also applies to the 'dialogue to die for' section as this is equally subjective.
Would Hurt's appearance in ''[[The Day of the Doctor (TV story)|The Day of the Doctor]]'' count as the holder of the title of "most watched first episode for any new incarnation of the Doctor" now with its BARB rating of 12.80 million? I ask this because although he's a regeneration, narratively the "[[War Doctor]]" only briefly sees himself as the Doctor at the very end of the life (and I'm gathering we're only counting full appearances, so ''The Day of the Doctor'' wouldn't technically be Capaldi's "first episode"). -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 06:52, February 15, 2015 (UTC)
--[[User:Mantrid|Mantrid]] 23:30, 30 Mar 2005 (EST)


Ok, agreed, I will remove the dialogue to die for and dialogue to bury. What about one new section called quotes which can contain any memorable quotes good or bad. I also plan to move the quotes when i have finished to a new page as they are taking up too much of this one Thanks --[[User:Amxitsa|Amxitsa]] 15:34, 31 Mar 2005 (EST)
== Continuity Section ==


:I like the idea of the "Quotes" section. Not sure whether it needs to be moved to another page, though. --[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] 23:10, 31 Mar 2005 (EST)
Just a small thing...


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''The Doctor once again speed reads a book in a matter of seconds. (TV: City of Death,  The Time of Angels, AUDIO: Invaders from Mars)'' (continuity section)


Ok so the page is finally complete, I have put in all of the info that I can think of to include at the moment.
While the reference to 'The Time of Angels' is correct (he did speed-read a book in that episode), should it be included since it happened after both 'Rose' (from our POV) and the events of 'Rose' (from an in-universe POV)?


What do people think of the page as a whole, i have tried to include all of the info that was on the original story template page but to expand upon it to create a much more detailed story summary.
If it said 'It is one of the many occasions on which the Doctor reads an entire book in a matter of seconds.' then the inclusion of the 'The Time of Angels' reference would make a lot of sense.


I have left all of the quotes on the main page in the end as I dont think they are going to make the page too lengthy (which had been my original concern). I think Rose is probably going to be one of the more quotable stories in the show anyway.
However, since it refers to '''previous''' occasions ("once again"), I would question the inclusion of that reference.


So let me know what you think. I was also wondering do you think we should be deleting the text in these discussion threads as we go, for example the argument over dialogue use has been resolved so should it remain on here as a record of development or be deleted when no longer relevant. Personally I would go with deleting irrelevant conversations as we dont want these pages to become too cluttered.
[[User:Smith, Alexander|Smith]] [[User talk:Smith, Alexander|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:35, November 16, 2015 (UTC)


--[[User:Amxitsa|Amxitsa]] 15:47, 2 Apr 2005 (EST)
: Just uh... Just change the wording of the sentence. This doesn't really need debating. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 09:15, November 16, 2015 (UTC)


:The page looks great, Amxitsa. I can't think of anything the page needs at this stage, except some images.  (I'm still ignorant about that — we need to figure out an image policy, I suppose.)
My apologies. I don't edit here often, so I'm not familiar with the policies and practices of the Wiki. Just wanted to check if I was doing the right thing before I edited.


:Now that you're finished, I think I'll take an editing pass over the article, if you don't mind: nothing big, just punctuation and such.  I like your idea of having a short summary on the page proper, and another page for a detailed summary: I may change the [[Doctor Who (TV Movie)|TV Movie]] page to that form (since my summary of that was ''way'' too long). --[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] 01:59, 4 Apr 2005 (EDT)
[[User:Smith, Alexander|Smith]] [[User talk:Smith, Alexander|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:07, November 16, 2015 (UTC)


::One detail: I think that we don't need to turn every mention of a character, place, piece of technology, etc. in a page into a wiki link — once per section should do.  I think it's better wiki style to have one link to, say, [[the Doctor]] in the summary and one in the credits listing, et cetera. This should probably be put into the [[Tardis:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]] (unless you or someone else disagrees). --[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] 02:11, 4 Apr 2005 (EDT)
:Oh, you're fine. If anything I was confused. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 16:47, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 
:Pleased you like it. I thought about putting an image on the page but decided that it was probably best to leave it to someone who knows what they are doing. On the issue of how many wiki links to have I really can't decide. I like the idea of having every reference linked and think it looks better on the page. Having only one per section would make the pages much easier to write though. Not sure what is best.--[[User:Amxitsa|Amxitsa]] 15:54, 4 Apr 2005 (EDT)
 
I disagree that the Doctor was being patronizing when Rose said that the Autons must be students. It looks to me as if he's recognizing that she's come up with a genuinely intelligent theory (even if it happens to be wrong).

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"Most watched first episode for a new incarnation"[[edit source]]

An immediate success, it remains, as of September 2013, the most-watched first episode for any new incarnation of the Doctor. Its 10.81 million BBC One rating bested the previous record-holder, Robot, and was not outdone by either The Christmas Invasion or The Eleventh Hour.

Would Hurt's appearance in The Day of the Doctor count as the holder of the title of "most watched first episode for any new incarnation of the Doctor" now with its BARB rating of 12.80 million? I ask this because although he's a regeneration, narratively the "War Doctor" only briefly sees himself as the Doctor at the very end of the life (and I'm gathering we're only counting full appearances, so The Day of the Doctor wouldn't technically be Capaldi's "first episode"). -- Tybort (talk page) 06:52, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

Continuity Section[[edit source]]

Just a small thing...

The Doctor once again speed reads a book in a matter of seconds. (TV: City of Death, The Time of Angels, AUDIO: Invaders from Mars) (continuity section)

While the reference to 'The Time of Angels' is correct (he did speed-read a book in that episode), should it be included since it happened after both 'Rose' (from our POV) and the events of 'Rose' (from an in-universe POV)?

If it said 'It is one of the many occasions on which the Doctor reads an entire book in a matter of seconds.' then the inclusion of the 'The Time of Angels' reference would make a lot of sense.

However, since it refers to previous occasions ("once again"), I would question the inclusion of that reference.

Smith ☎ 07:35, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Just uh... Just change the wording of the sentence. This doesn't really need debating. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 09:15, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

My apologies. I don't edit here often, so I'm not familiar with the policies and practices of the Wiki. Just wanted to check if I was doing the right thing before I edited.

Smith ☎ 10:07, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, you're fine. If anything I was confused. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 16:47, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
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