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I was just looking through the list and thought that it would be helpful if the boxes were pastelled coloured, eg. red for new series, yellow for classic series, blue for SJA, and green for Torchwood. I just think it makes it easier to get a rough idea of many of each are out. I was looking at 2009/10 and thought it'd be very helpful to identify the Classic DVD amongst the 2009 Specials, Compilations and sspin-offs. [[User:Taccer 07|Taccer 07]] 12:22, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


==suggested title change==
==Vandalism==
no article for "BBC DVD releases" or "List of BBC DVD releases" exists as yet so I suggest one of those as the title, which I consider more explanatory than the current title for this article. I did change the title of this article today, then the title got reverted. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 03:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


I don't think a separate article is necessary, any more than we need two articles for [[BBC Video]] and BBC Video Releases. [[User:Doug86|Doug86]] 04:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
This page is seemingly getting mutilated by trolls every day or two. Can anything be done to stop this pointless vandalism?[[User:Gallicus|Gallicus]] [[User talk:Gallicus|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:18, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


:For now I think we don't need a separate 'List of' article. I don't see that there is enough information on BBC DVD (as a whole) to justify moving it. Any information that is around can go at the top of the article as an introduction. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 13:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:I've IP protected the page for 2 weeks, the edits don't appear to be deliberate vandalism. Just several unintentional / mistaken edits. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 07:03, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


==2Entertain/Woolworths==
::The vandal is back (IP same as when page had to be locked earlier). I've just had to correct all the problem introduced by this individual. Definitely not unintentional errors as they are fabricating fake DVD releases.[[User:Gallicus|Gallicus]] [[User talk:Gallicus|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:01, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


As far as I am aware, the BBC purchased Woolworths share of the company after they had gone into administration, making the BBC full owners of 2Entertain. I do not have any evidence however, so have not added anything to the main article page.
*[[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] 19:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::I've been looking for something definitive on this for a few weeks now.  The best I can come up with is that the sale has not, in fact, gone through.  BBCW offered 100m at first, then cut it radically to 40m in late December, which the Woolie administrators rejected as what it was: a ridiculous insult.  The 2 entertain website still says as of today that Woolies is a part owner, even though they've been trying to sell it since at least May of 2008.  The reason it's taking so long seems to be because the value of the company is highly speculative.  One of the big unknowns is how much 2 entertainment Video's products are worth '''as distributed on the internet'''.  Given the insulting 40m bid, and the relative profitability of that li'l section of the former Woolie's empire, the administrators seem keen to wait and see what kind of genuine worth the online sector has. 


::If you ask me, BBCW simply overplayed their hand.  They had Woolies on the carpet, and they kicked 'em in the teeth.  If they'd just maintained the 100m bid, or maybe gone slightly lower, the deal would be done.  But to go down to 40m, well, that was a tactical error.  Clearly, their 40% stake is worth more than 40m, if only because the value of the company as a whole is more than 100m. 
== Table Formatting ==


::Any actual sale is probably going to break first and most reliably at [http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=2529035 Business Week's private companies profiles], so keep your eye there.  At the end of the day, thoguh, it doesn't matter all THAT much to the daily operations.  BBCW is majority owner ''now''; they don't technically need Wollies' percentage for anything having to do with day-to-day operations of the company.  And BBCW hold the right to buy the Woolies stake ahead of anyone else.  So a bidding war can't really happen.  If another company swoops in and offers 200m, BBCW still have the right to purchase at that price.  So, unless some mysterious bidder offers some absolutely ridiculous price, BBCW will eventually end up with the whole thing. 
Is there a way to uniform the tables?
I think it would also look neater if we could try and get the "# Doctor" on the same line in the cells, possibly be shortening the release date columns?


::Which kinda sucks, to be honest.  It was almost certainly a better company when it was the mixture of a strong retailer and a strong television producer.  '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]'''  [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 16:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
== More 2013 confirmations ==


== Missing Stories ==
Scream of the Shalka confirmed!
http://www.doctorwho.tv/whats-new/article/classic-doctor-who-dvd-and-blu-ray-releases-confirmed?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweet&utm_term=dvd&utm_campaign=dvdschedule


Missing stories occasionally creep into the "Still To Be Announced" section of this page.  As it is extremely unlikely that there would be a DVD issued for any completely missing story or any story that is included in the "Lost in Time" set I feel that adding them is merely wishful thinking and perhaps should be discouraged.
== The Two Doctors DVD 2015 ==
Although it's mostly the same as the 2004 DVD release, something should be added about how it will be re-released soon. The Fix With Sontarans extra has been removed, due to the segment being presented by disgraced presenter Jimmy Saville. [https://www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv-shows/movies-tv-shows-on-sale/tv-sci-fi/doctor-who-the-two-doctors/674059/| It'll now be re-released In Region 4] on the 28/1/15. [[Special:Contributions/110.175.3.245|110.175.3.245]]<sup>[[User talk:110.175.3.245#top|talk to me]]</sup> 12:53, January 20, 2015 (UTC)


[[User:Netrhino|Netrhino]] 17:24, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
== The Power of the Daleks ==
* I agree a link to [[Missing episodes]] is the better way to go, however I reworded the link as the original version was unnecessarily defeatest. Aside from the fact missing episodes still turn up from time to time, the idea of animating being "too expensive" is a fallacy now that we have people doing such things for free on YouTube that frankly look superior to the restored Invasion episodes. It's only a matter of time. And there's also always the chance BBC Video, especially when they get near the end of available complete stories, could always simply obtain the Loose Cannon restorations or similar projects. Not saying any of this is guaranteed, mark you, but "never say never" is definitely the order of the day. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 15:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


== Half Destroyed Stories ==
http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2016/09/power-of-daleks-50th-anniversary-070916000108.html


Is it really nessecary to have this included in the article, the information is already covered in the relevant articles [[User:Bigshowbower|Bigshowbower]] 05:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
The BBC is releasing an animated DVD of the first Patrick Troughton story on 21st November 2016 - this should be included on the list, ja? [[User:NPChilla1|NPChilla1]] [[User talk:NPChilla1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:01, September 7, 2016 (UTC)


==2010 and Onwards==
== Missing information from later entries.. ==
I would like to know what evidence supports the likeliness of the releases of [[Planet of the Spiders]], [[The Masque of Mandragora]] and [[Silver Nemesis]]
I can understand [[Revenge of the Cybermen]] as it would complete Season 12.
* Please sign your comments. As for the likeiness of releases, I'm unaware of any barriers preventing their release. They're complete stories. People involved in making them are still alive and available for commentaries. There's probably a load of deleted footage for Silver Nemesis (maybe enough to create an extended version). It's only a matter of time till they are released. Same with any other complete stories. BBC Video has stated they plan to release them all eventually. And by then it'll be so cheap to animate the missing episodes they'll just move on to those. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 15:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


== Split Articles. ==
For anybody who feels like updating the last couple of entries on this page:


I propose two new articles. Both of which would lessen the load on the 'List of BBC DVD Releases'.
* Doctor Who - The Complete Eleventh Series has 4 discs and its BBCDVD code is 4296 (BBCDVD4296)
* Resolution's BBCDVD code is 4373 (BBCDVD4373)
* The Macra Terror's BBCDVD code is 4371 (BBCDVD4371)
* Doctor Who - The Complete Twelfth Series has 5 discs and its BBCDVD code is 4418 (BBCDVD4418)
* Revolution of the Daleks' BBCDVD code is 4457 (BBCDVD4457)
* The Web Of Fear: Special Edition is set to be 2 discs and its BBCDVD code is 4459 (BBCDVD4459)


The first would be similar. Only detailing the list of Australian DVD's.
All information has been obtained from UK retailer Zoom.
This would be to make the original page more tidy. And the new article could go into greater detail about our schedule.
 
The second proposed article is a List of rumoured DVD releases.
As we all know that all complete episodes will one day be released, this page could be done in the form of a list with each episode, followed by their individual status. (eg: Lost, reconstruction rumoured, commentry recorded)
This would allow for the clutter at the bottom of the current page to vanish and be replaced by an orderly system.
 
If anyone would care to help me build these pages, or offer any suggestions, please feel free to contact me.
 
Regards,
 
D.M.J--[[User:D.M.J|D.M.J]] 10:49, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Im sorry but I have to disagree with the Australian Release List, it would be a carbon copy of the present list. The dates for releases would be better placed in the articles relating to the story. The rumours well there arent that many rumour releases that would warrant a single page. I dont really see the point in spliting the articles when a bit of work could be done [[User:Bigshowbower|Bigshowbower]] 11:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 
:The Australian (Region 4) releases could be split off to their own article, as could the US DVD releases. For the Australian DVD releases I can't seem to confirm or deny whether they use the same catalogue numbers as the UK releases. As at the moment the suggestion is they have the same catalogue number as their UK counterparts. However the catalogue numbers for other countries' releases and release dates are probably just as easily and best placed on the TV story articles in question.
:"As we all know"? Who is we? If it's statements like this justifying the creation of an article then the article shouldn't be created. Real world pages that are listing things that have not happened need sources of information to back them up.
:The 'clutter' at the bottom of the page is a list, which is what this article is. Shifting the list around would still make it a list. If it really is seen to be trouble it could be shifted to a sub-page of this article. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 
== Split articles: Furthur discussion ==
 
Hello again.
 
 
Firstly, the 'we' I mentioned before, refers to the general Doctor who fandom community. It has been stated numerous times by Dan Hall and 2Entertain that they'll release every story possible.
 
 
As I have little time to work on the disputed article in question, I am aware that they need sources, and where available I will obtain them. However I don't have that much free time on my hand to work on the article. Which is why I have welcomed others to come forward and edit the page.
 
 
I've only created this page to clarify what is confirmed information, and what is pure speculation. Not as a base of more rumours. However, if you're willing to let the 'future DVD releases' article merge into the main article, then I am willing to agree to that. May I suggest that the three sub-articles '2010 and beyond', 'DVD's that are yet to be announced' and 'Re-releases are all put together in the same fashion that I had planned for the article in question.
 
 
I hope that we have come to a suitable conclusion on this debate in which both sides are satisfied.
 
 
 
Now, moving onto the other subject: a seperate list of Australian DVD releases, and therefore a list of American DVD releases.
 
Although not released out of order, the release schedule for Australia is very different with just one classic release at the beginning of each month, with new series DVD's released shortly after they screen here. With 2Entertain's accelerated release schedule, Australia (already being 2-3 months behind) stands to become even more set back.
 
As for the matter of catalouge numbers. Delta and the bannerman, released here on the 6th of August has the catalouge number R-B01730-9.
 
However, on a second thought and upon observation of Wikipedia's similar (But often incorrect) list, a table may work much better and allow space for all 3 main markets to be covered. This could still be done by order of release, followed by the proposed list of future DVD release speculation clarification.
 
The only problem that I can see with this is; I've never seen a table on this site. Is a table of released DVD's followed by their regional release dates possible.
 
 
Thank you so very much for your time and I hope for your reply in due course.
 
 
Kind Regards,
 
 
D.M.J Long
 
:'The general Doctor Who fandom community'? That's a very big group to try and speak for. (How incidentally do you know we all know this about the DVD releases, that's a pretty big assumption about a very large community)
 
:But how do you define what is pure speculate and what is confirmed information if there are no sources (hence the prop delete, this is an article of nothing until it has sources).
 
:What information would be merged, this article has a bit of information copied from the [[Missing episodes]] article and some from the 'Still to be announced' list at the bottom of the List of BBC DVDs article, there isn't anything tangible that would need to be copied that isn't better covered in the separate articles that allow for better context.
 
: That would I think be too many sub-pages. The 2010 information can stay on the current article as we're only quickly leading up to 2010, but the 2010 listings can be cleared up come what.
:Some re-releases have already been confirmed in DWM.
DVDs yet to be announced could be in a sub-page, but looking at the list, it's good to have all the information on a list article, being that's what it's called on the title of the page. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 17:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 
'''Re-releases.'''
 
* This was confirmed in [[DWM]] 414.

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Vandalism[[edit source]]

This page is seemingly getting mutilated by trolls every day or two. Can anything be done to stop this pointless vandalism?Gallicus 09:18, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

I've IP protected the page for 2 weeks, the edits don't appear to be deliberate vandalism. Just several unintentional / mistaken edits. --Tangerineduel / talk 07:03, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
The vandal is back (IP same as when page had to be locked earlier). I've just had to correct all the problem introduced by this individual. Definitely not unintentional errors as they are fabricating fake DVD releases.Gallicus 21:01, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


Table Formatting[[edit source]]

Is there a way to uniform the tables? I think it would also look neater if we could try and get the "# Doctor" on the same line in the cells, possibly be shortening the release date columns?

More 2013 confirmations[[edit source]]

Scream of the Shalka confirmed! http://www.doctorwho.tv/whats-new/article/classic-doctor-who-dvd-and-blu-ray-releases-confirmed?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweet&utm_term=dvd&utm_campaign=dvdschedule

The Two Doctors DVD 2015[[edit source]]

Although it's mostly the same as the 2004 DVD release, something should be added about how it will be re-released soon. The Fix With Sontarans extra has been removed, due to the segment being presented by disgraced presenter Jimmy Saville. It'll now be re-released In Region 4 on the 28/1/15. 110.175.3.245talk to me 12:53, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

The Power of the Daleks[[edit source]]

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2016/09/power-of-daleks-50th-anniversary-070916000108.html

The BBC is releasing an animated DVD of the first Patrick Troughton story on 21st November 2016 - this should be included on the list, ja? NPChilla1 12:01, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

Missing information from later entries..[[edit source]]

For anybody who feels like updating the last couple of entries on this page:

  • Doctor Who - The Complete Eleventh Series has 4 discs and its BBCDVD code is 4296 (BBCDVD4296)
  • Resolution's BBCDVD code is 4373 (BBCDVD4373)
  • The Macra Terror's BBCDVD code is 4371 (BBCDVD4371)
  • Doctor Who - The Complete Twelfth Series has 5 discs and its BBCDVD code is 4418 (BBCDVD4418)
  • Revolution of the Daleks' BBCDVD code is 4457 (BBCDVD4457)
  • The Web Of Fear: Special Edition is set to be 2 discs and its BBCDVD code is 4459 (BBCDVD4459)

All information has been obtained from UK retailer Zoom.