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Shouldn’t “The Coming of the Teraphiles” be before Cold Blood/Hungry Earth as Amy still is ‘engaged’ to Rory. | Shouldn’t “The Coming of the Teraphiles” be before Cold Blood/Hungry Earth as Amy still is ‘engaged’ to Rory. | ||
:I don't recall it being stated that Amy's engaged in the book, but it's certainly a dense enough novel that I might be missing it. Where is this stated? [[User:Schreibenheimer|Schreibenheimer]] [[User talk:Schreibenheimer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:53, 16 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Broadcast Order or Originally intended Order == | |||
What are editors thoughts. [[User:Tellymustard|Tellymustard]] [[User talk:Tellymustard|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:58, 13 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Original intention shouldn't matter at all when considering when a story takes place. Moffat chose to swap ''The Curse of the Black Spot'' and ''Night Terrors'' and it would be counterintuitive to decide that his original intention is the correct one. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:01, 13 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
::''Black Spot'' is literally re-tailored to fit in the first half of series 7. If we decided to place it in the latter half, then Kovarian's cameo would no longer make sense, nor would Avery and Toby showing up in ''A Good Man Goes to War''. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:44, 13 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::Sorry I forgot about that. But besides black spot. [[User:Tellymustard|Tellymustard]] [[User talk:Tellymustard|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:: Imo broadcast order for tv stories should never under any circumstances be altered, especially in New Who. The only time I would ever consider this even being a conversation is for Season 25 and even then I still pretty firmly believe it should remain as release order. [[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:24, 13 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::"I forgot about the big gaping hole in my plan. But aside from that." [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:33, 13 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
: We actually discussed this years ago on the Seventh Doctor's timeline due to the inconsistencies that manifested from the broadcast order being reshuffled to fit with real world events. There was some good points made, and users changed opinions on what to do, but it was eventually decided that episode releases would be used instead of production intentions, because books and the Big Finish website use the "Takes place between Episode 1 and Episode 2" line to help place their stories.[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:56, 13 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
::I mean, [[The Girl in the Fireplace (TV story)|The Girl in the Fireplace]] is another obvious example where it just makes no sense to move things around. S25 is a weird case, but in general, yeah, no. Originally intended order makes no sense. You need something more like "intended order after script lock". [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:21, 14 November 2022 (UTC) |
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"Supernature" and the "Child of Time" arc[[edit source]]
Shouldn’t all the DWM stories from "Supernature" all the way up to "The Child of Time" all really be placed side by side with eachother? Beginning from "Supernature", the TARDIS begins absorbing different individuals from the places that the Doctor and Amy subsequently visit afterward, without there being any sort of break. WaltK ☎ 22:21, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
5.3 Factual correction[[edit source]]
Shouldn’t “The Coming of the Teraphiles” be before Cold Blood/Hungry Earth as Amy still is ‘engaged’ to Rory.
- I don't recall it being stated that Amy's engaged in the book, but it's certainly a dense enough novel that I might be missing it. Where is this stated? Schreibenheimer ☎ 17:53, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Broadcast Order or Originally intended Order[[edit source]]
What are editors thoughts. Tellymustard ☎ 20:58, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Original intention shouldn't matter at all when considering when a story takes place. Moffat chose to swap The Curse of the Black Spot and Night Terrors and it would be counterintuitive to decide that his original intention is the correct one. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 21:01, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry I forgot about that. But besides black spot. Tellymustard ☎ 21:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Imo broadcast order for tv stories should never under any circumstances be altered, especially in New Who. The only time I would ever consider this even being a conversation is for Season 25 and even then I still pretty firmly believe it should remain as release order. SarahJaneFan ☎ 22:24, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- We actually discussed this years ago on the Seventh Doctor's timeline due to the inconsistencies that manifested from the broadcast order being reshuffled to fit with real world events. There was some good points made, and users changed opinions on what to do, but it was eventually decided that episode releases would be used instead of production intentions, because books and the Big Finish website use the "Takes place between Episode 1 and Episode 2" line to help place their stories.BananaClownMan ☎ 23:56, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- I mean, The Girl in the Fireplace is another obvious example where it just makes no sense to move things around. S25 is a weird case, but in general, yeah, no. Originally intended order makes no sense. You need something more like "intended order after script lock". Najawin ☎ 00:21, 14 November 2022 (UTC)