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The computer registers Amy to be over 1300 years old, when it should register her to be over 700
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: Good spot there. It suggests either that the timeframe of the story was changed at some point, and the age calculation wasn't updated. Or Amy somehow gets registered several hundred years before she was born... possibly in a future adventure?
== Date ==


[[Special:Contributions/79.123.73.227|79.123.73.227]] 20:09, April 10, 2010 (UTC) Sensorite 20:09, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
I'm removing any reference to this story taking place in 3295. The only justification given for this date is extrapolation from Amy's age. That's not good enough or a source. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:56, January 22, 2018 (UTC)


:: One point: I know the Doctor mentions that mankind branched out in the 29th century, but I can't remember any point where it mentions explicity that they are travelling in the 2800s (although I may be wrong). Isn't it possible that they have been travelling for hundreds of years, perhaps up to the 3300s (which makes Amy about the right age)? You're right, look down at the Setting highlight, it should be edited.[[User:Doctorin the TARDIS|Doctorin the TARDIS]] 22:54, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
== 3295, cont. ==


If the Doctor and Amy are in the mouth of the star whale, shouldn't that mean they are exposed to the open space and suffocate? [[User:Conmck22|Conmck22]] 18:45, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
I couldn't work out where [[3295]] was coming from (didn't check the talk page, above), but through some digging, found this explanation:
 
:''Amy is said to be 1306 years old, and she was born in [[1989]].''
: Because the Star Whale has it's mouth closed? We only see the teeth, not the stars outside. Presumably it's lips form an air-tight seal, or it's lips had been sealed surgically when the feeding tubes were inserted. Any oxygen atomosphere would then come from Starship UK, possibly from the compressed air cannons used to force food down the tubes.<br />
I think ''circa'' [[3295]] is fair enough (much like extrapolating dates in ''Class'' or ''Miracle Day'', where there's a clear chronology, and this is even more precise than our "circa" treatment of the year in ''[[The Dalek Invasion of Earth (TV story)|The Dalek Invasion of Earth]]''), but unless Amy was born on 1 January there's just as much chance this is 3296. I think the category [[:category:Stories set in the 3290s|Stories set in the 3290s]] is without doubt most appropriate, so my query is more about what is best to put in the infobox. Any thoughts on "c. 3295"?{{User:SOTO/sig}} 20:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
This also explains why The Doctor and Amy end up in an overflow tube when the Star Whale vomits, rather than being expelled into space.
 
[[Special:Contributions/79.123.73.227|79.123.73.227]] 20:09, April 10, 2010 (UTC) Sensorite 20:09, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Production Errors ==
 
In the pre-credit sequence there is a shot of Timmy in the lift with the Smiler smiling. Then the shot switches to the "test card girl". Then back to a shot with Timmy in the lift with the Smiler already having it's "disapproving" face. Only then does the shot switch to a close-up of the Smiler, still with the smiling face, turning it's head to the disapproving face.
 
== Setting ==
 
The machine gave Amy's age as about 1300, as Amy is 21 in 2010, this story should be given a setting in the 34th century not the 29th.
 
[[User:Doctorin the TARDIS|Doctorin the TARDIS]] 21:35, April 10, 2010 (UTC)Doctorin the TARDIS 10:35pm Sat 10th April 2010
 
Liz 10 had been queen for 300 years (by the Doctor's estimate), so if they left Earth in the 2900s and she was involved in capturing the whale as her recorded message suggests, then it could easily have been at least 3200, possibly later if you fudge the numbers a bit (late 2900s, and the Doctor underestimated by a century or so). [[User:Lokiofmidgaard|Lokiofmidgaard]] 21:43, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
==The Crack==
The crack reappeared again in this episode, less subtle than the one on the Doctor's monitor in the last - at the end of the episode, in the hull of Starship UK itself. [[Special:Contributions/68.52.163.69|68.52.163.69]] 22:13, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

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I'm removing any reference to this story taking place in 3295. The only justification given for this date is extrapolation from Amy's age. That's not good enough or a source. Shambala108 23:56, January 22, 2018 (UTC)

3295, cont.[[edit source]]

I couldn't work out where 3295 was coming from (didn't check the talk page, above), but through some digging, found this explanation:

Amy is said to be 1306 years old, and she was born in 1989.

I think circa 3295 is fair enough (much like extrapolating dates in Class or Miracle Day, where there's a clear chronology, and this is even more precise than our "circa" treatment of the year in The Dalek Invasion of Earth), but unless Amy was born on 1 January there's just as much chance this is 3296. I think the category Stories set in the 3290s is without doubt most appropriate, so my query is more about what is best to put in the infobox. Any thoughts on "c. 3295"?
× SOTO (//) 20:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)