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Should there not be a separate article for the individual who was eaten by the Empress of the Racnoss and spun in her web? (PS - I am RedWizard98, having found myself unable to log in) [[Special:Contributions/92.27.180.7|92.27.180.7]]<sup>[[User talk:92.27.180.7#top|talk to me]]</sup> 00:49, 21 July 2024 (UTC) | Should there not be a separate article for the individual who was eaten by the Empress of the Racnoss and spun in her web? (PS - I am RedWizard98, having found myself unable to log in) [[Special:Contributions/92.27.180.7|92.27.180.7]]<sup>[[User talk:92.27.180.7#top|talk to me]]</sup> 00:49, 21 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
:Bump. [[User:RedWizard98|RedWizard98]] [[User talk:RedWizard98|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Oh, ''absolutely'', I think… | |||
::One interesting thing is that there are apparently ''two'' H.C. Clementses. One is at [[Horatio Calvin Clements]] at the moment, and founded [[H.C. Clements|the company]] in [[1881]], according to (I think) a company website in the episode; another was alive and well when [[Donna Noble|Donna]] worked at the company in the [[2000s]], and referred to as "H.C. Clements" or "Mr Clements"… and then again, this doesn't mean they're ''necessarily'' different, in the DWU, but the name collision doesn't mean they're the ''same'', either… | |||
::…I'm not sure how to disambiguate this. H.C. Clements the ''company'' should probably stay at this name, since it's probably looked up more often, and qualifies for primary-topic-ness… And the two individuals can't really be disambiguated by occupation, since they're both vaguely businessmen and heads of the company, from what I gathered… should it be ([[19th century]] individual)/([[21st century]] individual)? Or should the founder stay at [[Horatio Calvin Clements]], and the guy with the shoes strictly at [[H.C. Clements (individual)]]? Or should the two be merged, as two different accounts of the same person (like at [[William Hartnell (in-universe)]])? | |||
::Regardless, I agree that the ''individual(s)'' should ''definitely'' be separate from the ''company''… | |||
::[[User:JSmith5504|jsmith5504]]<sup>[[User talk:JSmith5504|talk to me]]</sup> 09:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Thank you for corresponding. Since there is clearly a separate individual that Donna was acquainted with at work (before the Racnoss ate him), so we should separate the individuals with the necessary parentheses. [[User:RedWizard98|RedWizard98]] [[User talk:RedWizard98|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
::: I would lean to the side of covering the individuals as differing accounts of the same person, what with them both clearly being intended to be the founder of the company. {{User:Aquanafrahudy/Sig}} 21:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::(nb: The current article also cites the 1881 fact to the episode when it shouldn't.) I'm unsure that the text of the episode is ''quite'' clear enough that we should treat them as the same individual, but it's certainly suggestive, yes. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Does anyone know where File:Donnadesk.jpg came from? -- Dalek Emperor1"'(Skaro Base)
- It's at a wrong angle for a screenshot from the episode, it could be from DW Confidential. You could message the user who uploaded it or put a question on the image's talk page. --Tangerineduel 14:17, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
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Should there not be a separate article for the individual who was eaten by the Empress of the Racnoss and spun in her web? (PS - I am RedWizard98, having found myself unable to log in) 92.27.180.7talk to me 00:49, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Bump. RedWizard98 ☎ 00:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, absolutely, I think…
- One interesting thing is that there are apparently two H.C. Clementses. One is at Horatio Calvin Clements at the moment, and founded the company in 1881, according to (I think) a company website in the episode; another was alive and well when Donna worked at the company in the 2000s, and referred to as "H.C. Clements" or "Mr Clements"… and then again, this doesn't mean they're necessarily different, in the DWU, but the name collision doesn't mean they're the same, either…
- …I'm not sure how to disambiguate this. H.C. Clements the company should probably stay at this name, since it's probably looked up more often, and qualifies for primary-topic-ness… And the two individuals can't really be disambiguated by occupation, since they're both vaguely businessmen and heads of the company, from what I gathered… should it be (19th century individual)/(21st century individual)? Or should the founder stay at Horatio Calvin Clements, and the guy with the shoes strictly at H.C. Clements (individual)? Or should the two be merged, as two different accounts of the same person (like at William Hartnell (in-universe))?
- Regardless, I agree that the individual(s) should definitely be separate from the company…
- jsmith5504talk to me 09:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for corresponding. Since there is clearly a separate individual that Donna was acquainted with at work (before the Racnoss ate him), so we should separate the individuals with the necessary parentheses. RedWizard98 ☎ 21:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would lean to the side of covering the individuals as differing accounts of the same person, what with them both clearly being intended to be the founder of the company. Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 21:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)