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== Interestingly... ==


I noticed that every famous Doctor Who villain was here... except for the Weeping Angels, one of the most popular monsters of late.


I don't understand the Daleks and Cybermen think all other races are inproper and must be destroyed or converted and they worked together with other species to stop the doctor, the cracks must have been very serious to make daleks and cybermen work together to save the universe--[[User:Jackr12|Jackr12]] 19:14, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
Though I can understand reasons why they wouldn't show up.
Mainly because they are sadists who probably wouldn't care less if the universe is destroyed.
In fact they were probably welcoming it because it would put them out of their misery.


== Infobox ==
And they don't have spaceships...
But I'm pretty sure they have their own way of traveling through space.


Can we please keep all the members of the Alliance out of the infobox and instead on the article? The infobox stretches horribly if we listed every single race on there. [[User:The evil dude|The evil dude]][[User:The evil dude|.]] 20:18, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
== 2 Things ==


== Category ==
Exactly where in the scene is the Weevil? I looked where other people say but it turned out to be the Hoix. You can see the cables in it's "armor." Also, am I the only one who noticed that the Sycorax DO physically appear? There's one in the VEERY back. On this page's image it can be seen in the top left. It's helmet is on.
Should we have a category for the members of the Alliance? {{User:Solar Dragon/Signature}} 21:20, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


== What do the Daleks and Cybermen hope to gain? ==
:Take a look at this screenshot (not done by me): http://dalektricity.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/silurians-and-weevils.jpg. The Weevils are definitely there.
:As for the Sycorax, yes, you are correct. But note that they're already noted in the "Notable Members" section. (''God, that's a lot of notes...'')
:--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 02:22, February 28, 2013 (UTC)


Why would the Daleks and Cybermen want to prevent the destruction of [all] the Universe(s)? Isn't that their goal? Imprisoning the Doctor would then be counter-intuitive, unless its just because of a grudge.
== Zygons? ==
:They would be destroyed too. They don't want that do they? {{User:Solar Dragon/Signature}} 10:28, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
I think it's much more likely that the new Doctor Who team just doesn't care about Who lore and is willing to get all the baddies together for great <strike>justice </strike>ratings. [[User:Karshí|Karshí]] 20:13, June 20, 2010 (UTC)


== Move ==
I am not sure the Zygons were there. I am actually almost positive they weren't{{Unsigned-anon|174.71.45.157}}


Why was this page moved? Any move should have been discussed first. [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 12:42, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
Zygons didn't physically show up, they were a name drop like some of the other races when River is prattling of the owners of the ships descending on Stonehenge. - Anonymous{{Unsigned-anon|68.5.174.172}}


== Blowfish ==
== Chronological Placement in Articles ==


Did anyone actually see the blowfish on screen. If so, could you please provide a time that they appeared. [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 12:46, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
Where exactly would the actions of the Alliance fit in the histories of species pages such as [[Dalek]], [[Cyberman]], [[Sontaran]], etc? Does the Alliance count as an alternate timeline scenario, even though it was a part of the "prime" timeline before the [[Eleventh Doctor]] "rebooted" the universe in ''[[The Big Bang (TV story)|The Big Bang]]''?[[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:52, 23 February 2021 (UTC)


Look at the picture in the Infobox. The Drone Dalek's right you should see it's head fin and the top of a Uvodni. [[User:Son of Icthar|Son of Icthar]] 13:59, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
== Rename ==
While an undabbed name is often preferable to a dabbed one, the proposed new name, [[Alliance of Enemies]], is not exactly that preferable in my opinion. It feels like a "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" situation where a group is given an "evil name", yet the actual members in it often believe they are in the right. I doubt most of the creatures in the Alliance would agree to being called "Enemies" in such a fashion. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 10:32, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 
:I agree that the proposed name is not really suitable. It's far too vague. I think this is an occasion where a dab is necessary. At least people will know without a doubt which Alliance the page is about when searching. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 
:: Coming back to this, ''[[Dalek: The Astounding Untold History of the Greatest Enemies of the Universe (short story)|Dalek: The Astounding Untold History of the Greatest Enemies of the Universe]]'' does not exactly specify the name's meaning but I believe it is open to interpretation that it could refer to factions that would have usually been hostile towards each other (Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, Draconians etc.) rather than assorted enemies of the Doctor. [[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] [[User talk:MrThermomanPreacher|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 
== deffo change the name ==
 
i think we should deffo change the article name to Pandorica Alliance or something so ye {{Unsigned|SJM-123}}
 
: I don't mind the way this page is named, but if it were to be changed, I agree "The Pandorica Alliance" would work well. [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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Interestingly...[[edit source]]

I noticed that every famous Doctor Who villain was here... except for the Weeping Angels, one of the most popular monsters of late.

Though I can understand reasons why they wouldn't show up. Mainly because they are sadists who probably wouldn't care less if the universe is destroyed. In fact they were probably welcoming it because it would put them out of their misery.

And they don't have spaceships... But I'm pretty sure they have their own way of traveling through space.

2 Things[[edit source]]

Exactly where in the scene is the Weevil? I looked where other people say but it turned out to be the Hoix. You can see the cables in it's "armor." Also, am I the only one who noticed that the Sycorax DO physically appear? There's one in the VEERY back. On this page's image it can be seen in the top left. It's helmet is on.

Take a look at this screenshot (not done by me): http://dalektricity.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/silurians-and-weevils.jpg. The Weevils are definitely there.
As for the Sycorax, yes, you are correct. But note that they're already noted in the "Notable Members" section. (God, that's a lot of notes...)
--SOTO 02:22, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Zygons?[[edit source]]

I am not sure the Zygons were there. I am actually almost positive they weren'tThe preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.71.45.157 (talk).

Zygons didn't physically show up, they were a name drop like some of the other races when River is prattling of the owners of the ships descending on Stonehenge. - AnonymousThe preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.5.174.172 (talk).

Chronological Placement in Articles[[edit source]]

Where exactly would the actions of the Alliance fit in the histories of species pages such as Dalek, Cyberman, Sontaran, etc? Does the Alliance count as an alternate timeline scenario, even though it was a part of the "prime" timeline before the Eleventh Doctor "rebooted" the universe in The Big Bang?Thalek Prime Overseer 10:52, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Rename[[edit source]]

While an undabbed name is often preferable to a dabbed one, the proposed new name, Alliance of Enemies, is not exactly that preferable in my opinion. It feels like a "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" situation where a group is given an "evil name", yet the actual members in it often believe they are in the right. I doubt most of the creatures in the Alliance would agree to being called "Enemies" in such a fashion.

10:32, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

I agree that the proposed name is not really suitable. It's far too vague. I think this is an occasion where a dab is necessary. At least people will know without a doubt which Alliance the page is about when searching. LauraBatham 11:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Coming back to this, Dalek: The Astounding Untold History of the Greatest Enemies of the Universe does not exactly specify the name's meaning but I believe it is open to interpretation that it could refer to factions that would have usually been hostile towards each other (Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, Draconians etc.) rather than assorted enemies of the Doctor. MrThermomanPreacher 07:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

deffo change the name[[edit source]]

i think we should deffo change the article name to Pandorica Alliance or something so ye The preceding unsigned comment was added by SJM-123 (talk • contribs) .

I don't mind the way this page is named, but if it were to be changed, I agree "The Pandorica Alliance" would work well. Fractal Doctor 18:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)