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== Edit warring ==
== Hey! ==
Hey, haven't seen you around for a while! [[User:Dr. Anonymous1|Dr. Anonymous1]] [[User talk:Dr. Anonymous1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:42, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
Yeah, I've been busy over the summer, and now that college has started up again, I still don't have much time to devote to this. But now that Doctor Who has come back (at least for the next month or so), I'll be here at least marginally. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 17:44, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
== Death ==
Regeneration is death. It's a way of cheating death, but it is death. The body dies and then new cells grow in it's place. but death happen first. When the Fifth Doctor dies and then becomes the Sixth, he dies. It is the same thing. Sorry to take such a depressing take on all of it, but regeneration ''is'' death. And "Death" is a much better header than "Regeneration", particuarly as every Doctor regenerated twice in his life. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 01:44, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
: Besides that point, the Doctor only ''changes'' when he dies. Regeneration is a way to avoid death, but only by means of rejuvenation. When the Seventh Doctor was killed in that hopsital he died. Then he regenerated. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 03:15, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
:: No, he became a stiff. He died. The word "death" has been used multiple time in regeneration stories; including ''[[The Caves of Androzani (TV story)|The Caves of Androzani]]''. Regeneration is the process of being reborn after death. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 04:04, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
::: As the Tenth Doctor said in ''The End of Time'', "Even if I change, it feels like dying. Everything I am dies. Some new man goes sauntering away...and I'm dead." Even if he just changes and goes on, it's still death in a way. ''Everything I am dies.'' The Tenth Doctor, by definition, is now dead. Now we have the Eleventh. But the Tenth is still dead. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 04:33, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
:::: The proplem here is that every Doctor has two regenerations. Putting a section called "Regeneration" on the Tenth Doctor's page, for example, could refer to either ''Parting of The Ways'' or ''The End of Time''. And the death sections on the the [[Third Doctor]]'s page are a must-keep. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 05:07, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
No, no it wouldn't. Sorry to be so nnegative, but "Death" is frankly more interesting and accurate than "Regeneration", and if a fan truly doesn't understand that regeneration is coming back after death than that's not our proplem. We shouldn't structure pages off of the ideals of new fans; if we did we'd be wiping all pre-2005 info off the map. "Death" is a better and less confusing header than "Regeneration". [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 05:44, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
: Yeah, a forum discussion is best for this one; over wheather the Doctor dies and is ressurected or if he simply "changes". Czech would prop def pull out some sources from books and we could come to a consensus. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 22:09, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
:: Might as well move it to the forum. Make the question over whether regeneration is "changing-pre-death" or "rejuvination-post-death". I feel like Czech can get us some quick sources. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 19:35, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Spoiler question ==
Yours is a good question. I had to hunt about on the spoiler policy page before I could find any mention of story titles. I finally found it under "Official Info", where it says, "What, then, do we do with information that comes from a reputable source like the BBC itself? We use it only on the series page. It cannot be used elsewhere. The three biggest types of "official" info are story titles, casting information, and the odd leak of in-universe information."
 
So under normal circumstances, an upcoming story title can go on the related series page. It's just that the 50th anniversary special and the Christmas special are not considered part of series 7 or 8, so there is no place to list their titles before their releases (except of course at the Howling).
 
Hope that answers your question! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:44, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
:Not sure it's quite as hard to find as Shambala makes out. It's covered at [[T:SPOIL DEF]], which defines a spoiler as "''any'' information about an unbroadcast or unreleased story".  A title would be part of "''any'' information".  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 16:23: Mon 23 Dec 2013</span>
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I hope I didn't make a mistake with the external link.  I can only open one page at a time on my computer, so I have to read, close, and go back and work.  If I am in error I will do my best not to repeat it.


Please do not continue to edit war the headers of the [[Trickster's Brigade]] page. Allies can be contained with members as a different group.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 21:52, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
== Re:Quick question ==
Hi! I've added a response to your and [[User:Mewiet]]'s discussion at [[User talk:Shambala108|my talk page]]. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:23, July 12, 2014 (UTC)
:In order to stop Shambala getting pinged every single time one of you responds, I've moved the matter to the neutral ground of [[Thread:158757]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:37: Sun 13 Jul 2014</span>


Exactly why there is a different header with the central block of members. I suggest posting on the talk page as edit warring is against policy.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 21:56, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
== The Gift ==


== Blocking policy ==
Per [[T:BOUND]], just because you disagree with policy, doesn't mean you can ignore it. You can't simply declare it "invalid". As such I'm going to be enforcing [[Thread:149557]] on the relevant pages, and if you would like to [[T:CHANGE|change policy]], you can bring it up at [[Board:The Panopticon]]. '''[[User:PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#002B7F">P&amp;P</span>]] [[User_talk:PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#FCD116;font-size:0.6em">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#CE1126;font-size:0.6em">contribs</span>]]''' 19:41, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


You have not agreed to leave the page alone and discuss the matter on the talk page ''before'' changes are made, under the [[Tardis:Blocking policy|Tardis:blocking policy]] you can be blocked for around 2 hours if you continue to do this. Consider this your final warning. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 22:06, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
== Page moves ==


You don't understand what I meant, you were reverting the edits back, they should have been left alone and then a TP discussion should occur. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 22:09, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
Hi! Please note that, per [[Thread:128198]], only admins are allowed to move pages. By moving Pond Life (webcast) to Pond Life (TV story), you've left behind a redirect that will take some time to clean up. In the future, if something needs to be renamed/moved, please just add a rename tag. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:05, September 15, 2015 (UTC)


::I agree with Bone Cold here, it seems a bit unfair that just because he did not go to the talk page, he should get blocked. Other Users were part of the edit war. However, now he done the right thing and started a discussion. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 22:13, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
== Re: Prologue ==


To be honest I have been looking at the big picture and not the specifics of this edit war. But in future try to leave the page after revertion and ask the users to discuss on the talk page. Thanks. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 22:13, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
Hi! I don't know the answer to your question (I haven't even seen the story yet), but I will start a forum page to see what other users can tell us. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:37, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

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Hey, haven't seen you around for a while! Dr. Anonymous1 17:42, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been busy over the summer, and now that college has started up again, I still don't have much time to devote to this. But now that Doctor Who has come back (at least for the next month or so), I'll be here at least marginally. --Bold Clone 17:44, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Death[[edit source]]

Regeneration is death. It's a way of cheating death, but it is death. The body dies and then new cells grow in it's place. but death happen first. When the Fifth Doctor dies and then becomes the Sixth, he dies. It is the same thing. Sorry to take such a depressing take on all of it, but regeneration is death. And "Death" is a much better header than "Regeneration", particuarly as every Doctor regenerated twice in his life. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 01:44, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Besides that point, the Doctor only changes when he dies. Regeneration is a way to avoid death, but only by means of rejuvenation. When the Seventh Doctor was killed in that hopsital he died. Then he regenerated. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 03:15, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
No, he became a stiff. He died. The word "death" has been used multiple time in regeneration stories; including The Caves of Androzani. Regeneration is the process of being reborn after death. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 04:04, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
As the Tenth Doctor said in The End of Time, "Even if I change, it feels like dying. Everything I am dies. Some new man goes sauntering away...and I'm dead." Even if he just changes and goes on, it's still death in a way. Everything I am dies. The Tenth Doctor, by definition, is now dead. Now we have the Eleventh. But the Tenth is still dead. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 04:33, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
The proplem here is that every Doctor has two regenerations. Putting a section called "Regeneration" on the Tenth Doctor's page, for example, could refer to either Parting of The Ways or The End of Time. And the death sections on the the Third Doctor's page are a must-keep. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 05:07, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

No, no it wouldn't. Sorry to be so nnegative, but "Death" is frankly more interesting and accurate than "Regeneration", and if a fan truly doesn't understand that regeneration is coming back after death than that's not our proplem. We shouldn't structure pages off of the ideals of new fans; if we did we'd be wiping all pre-2005 info off the map. "Death" is a better and less confusing header than "Regeneration". OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 05:44, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, a forum discussion is best for this one; over wheather the Doctor dies and is ressurected or if he simply "changes". Czech would prop def pull out some sources from books and we could come to a consensus. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 22:09, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
Might as well move it to the forum. Make the question over whether regeneration is "changing-pre-death" or "rejuvination-post-death". I feel like Czech can get us some quick sources. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 19:35, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Spoiler question[[edit source]]

Yours is a good question. I had to hunt about on the spoiler policy page before I could find any mention of story titles. I finally found it under "Official Info", where it says, "What, then, do we do with information that comes from a reputable source like the BBC itself? We use it only on the series page. It cannot be used elsewhere. The three biggest types of "official" info are story titles, casting information, and the odd leak of in-universe information."

So under normal circumstances, an upcoming story title can go on the related series page. It's just that the 50th anniversary special and the Christmas special are not considered part of series 7 or 8, so there is no place to list their titles before their releases (except of course at the Howling).

Hope that answers your question! Shambala108 20:44, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Not sure it's quite as hard to find as Shambala makes out. It's covered at T:SPOIL DEF, which defines a spoiler as "any information about an unbroadcast or unreleased story". A title would be part of "any information".
czechout<staff />    16:23: Mon 23 Dec 2013

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I hope I didn't make a mistake with the external link. I can only open one page at a time on my computer, so I have to read, close, and go back and work. If I am in error I will do my best not to repeat it.

Re:Quick question[[edit source]]

Hi! I've added a response to your and User:Mewiet's discussion at my talk page. Thanks! Shambala108 14:23, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

In order to stop Shambala getting pinged every single time one of you responds, I've moved the matter to the neutral ground of Thread:158757.
czechout<staff />    04:37: Sun 13 Jul 2014

The Gift[[edit source]]

Per T:BOUND, just because you disagree with policy, doesn't mean you can ignore it. You can't simply declare it "invalid". As such I'm going to be enforcing Thread:149557 on the relevant pages, and if you would like to change policy, you can bring it up at Board:The Panopticon. P&P talk contribs 19:41, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Page moves[[edit source]]

Hi! Please note that, per Thread:128198, only admins are allowed to move pages. By moving Pond Life (webcast) to Pond Life (TV story), you've left behind a redirect that will take some time to clean up. In the future, if something needs to be renamed/moved, please just add a rename tag. Thanks! Shambala108 02:05, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Prologue[[edit source]]

Hi! I don't know the answer to your question (I haven't even seen the story yet), but I will start a forum page to see what other users can tell us. Shambala108 02:37, September 18, 2015 (UTC)