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| == Unknown == | | == Rename == |
| | I agree with [[User:Tybort|Tybort]]'s suggestion in the rename template that the story dab on this page should be changed to (The Impossible Astronaut) – the [[Virgin New Adventures]] have already given us many examples of characters who technically appeared first in the DWM prequels but are nonetheless disambiguated by the novel title; [[Luigi (Blood Harvest)]] is one example I found with a few seconds of searching. The same precedent should apply here, and to the extent that the current text of the rules doesn't match this longstanding practice, the rules [[Forum:Temporary forums/T:BOUND Reform|should be updated]]. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 15:01, 24 August 2023 (UTC) |
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| Not much to say really. We should implement it as "unknown" because the credit is usually a rank or office. I expect this character will be named in part two, but I'll be useful for future reference.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 20:16, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
| | :I too agree with this suggestion. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] 15:43, 24 August 2023 (UTC) |
| | | :: This has been open for a long while, and the VNA precedent is inarguable, now it's been laid out. Performing rename. To be clear, the ruling here is that these sorts of short-form prequels, unless they constitute a narrative that could stand on its own, should be considered part of their parent stories when it comes to dabbing elements in them.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 03:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC) |
| == Infobox name == | | ::: I agree with the ruling ''per se'', but for the record "unless they constitute a narrative that could stand on its own" doesn't feel like the right standard. Most of these things ''could'' easily be covered as standalone if the longer thing didn't exist. It's all about presentation. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC) |
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| It should be "Little girl". Across this wiki, more page have their title (i.e policeman, vicar, little girl, woman) as their name in the infobox. The name in the infobox should be the page name (bar anything in brackets). [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 20:16, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
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| :Erm...why? Because "unknown" suggest we lack knowledge. Yeah, little girl, that's an individual's name. See [[Coolie (The Talons of Weng-Chiang)]] for an example of this implemented.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 20:20, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Because that's their name given in Doctor Who, and that's the name that should be given in the infobox. See:
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| *[[Vicar (Family of Blood)]]
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| *[[Vicar (Father's Day)]]
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| *[[Vicar (Remembrance of the Daleks)]]
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| *[[Vicar (The Next Doctor)]]
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| *[[Vicar (The Runaway Bride)]]
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| *[[Little Girl (The Runaway Bride)]]
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| *[[Man (Turn Left)]]
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| *[[Woman (Turn Left)]]
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| *[[Woman (Last of the Time Lords)]]
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| These are just a small amount of the page where an unnamed character has had their title as the infobox page name. It make sense to keep it that way. That is there name given in the DWU, so that's the name we give them. Not putting their given name in the infobox is like create the page called "Unknown Little Girl" [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 20:26, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
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| No, its not there name in Dr Who, just in the credits. Your only real argument is: this is what's going on at the moment. So, yes, it would take a while to implement. However, it will be good once it's finished.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 20:29, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Regarding killing the Doctor == | |
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| After seeing next weeks episode (which by the way I have) you may be under the same impression as me that the little girl did not actually kill the Doctor - surley something like tht should not be put in till we actually have confirmation it was her who did it![[Special:Contributions/91.108.5.196|91.108.5.196]] 18:28, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
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| We place as much information as we know from the stories that have been broadcast, if something changes in the next episode then we will just have to go back and sort things out. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 18:31, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
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| My point is, even from the story, we dont know it was the little girl - the fact is we didnt see the face of the shooter... [[Special:Contributions/91.108.5.196|91.108.5.196]] 18:34, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
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| We don't have any info to the contrary.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 19:30, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
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| Then remove the information, otherwise it is speculation, and classified as incorrect until canonical confirmation. [[User:Rassilon of Old|<font color="lightbrown">'''Rassilon of Old'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Rassilon of Old|Talk]] - [[w:c:ttff:Teen_Titans_Fan_Fiction_Wiki|TTFF]] - [[w:c:avatar:Fanon: Avatar: The Legend of Teru|Teru]]) </sup> 14:22, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Split page? ==
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| I know we have so little info but from what it looks like the little girl and the spaceman (or impossible astronaut) are two different enitiy's and should be seperated on this wiki as stated before there is no proof that it was the little girl that killed the doctor but the spaceman did! Lastly all we know so far is that she's wearing a spacesuit like the the one that the person (*coughcough*river*coughcough*) that killed the doctor did not that she is or wearing the one!
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| : I also suggest we keep this page solely for the girl, but create another page for the actual suit, as it is a piece of technology, not the same entity as the girl. [[User:D0ct0r11|D0ct0r11]] 16:13, May 1, 2011 (UTC) | |
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| Since the girl was in the suit for a time then we should have all that info on the page, but obviously now we know she escaped the suit and it can move on its own then we shouldn't have the 2011 info there. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 16:23, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Beach Scene ==
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| Hi, I'm not really a contributer so feel free to ignore everything I say but I was wondering if you should add an image or a mention that when the 1,103 Doctor is on the beach and tells the Astronaut his know's who they are, their flesh seems to be rotted during the split second it lifts up the helmet Visor. Just incase you didn't notice and wanted to mention it in the article. [[Special:Contributions/92.14.123.98|92.14.123.98]] 18:02, April 26, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Little girl ==
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| Is she a time lord? She is seen regenerating near the end of Day of the Moon <font face="Kristen ITC" color="Green">[[:wikipedia:User:Tyw7#p|''Tyw7'']]</font> ([[:wikipedia:User:Tyw7/t|☎ Contact me!]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tyw7|Contributions]]) ''Changing the world one edit at a time!'' 17:50, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| :Please take this to the Howling. Thank you. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 17:59, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Regeneration ==
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| At The End Of The Impossible Astronaut She Regenerated Which Leads Me To Beleive She Is The Doctors Daughter Or A Relative Of The Doctor Or Jenny(the doctors daughter)
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| :Please take this to the Howling. Thank you. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 17:59, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| == time lord? ==
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| ok we know shes a time lord/lady but could she be the rani or river song or someone?
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| Please take this to the Howling. Thank you. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 18:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Locked? ==
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| Why is this page locked? There is no reason whatsoever for it to be locked! I don't know why admins feel they have right now to do what they like -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 18:20, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| :Too much speculation was being added, so admins decided to lock it 24 hours. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 18:23, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| This was a group decision from 3 admins, the page is a target of speculation and it is almost impossible to edit the page for speculatory edits. The page has been locked for 24 hours, if you want to add anything to the page please write your proposed entry on this talk page and we can then place it in the article. Thank you. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 18:22, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Species ==
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| Now we are in a pickle for what species to stick her under, at the moment it is pure speculation to say she is a human/hybrid and Amy's child. The option that I think would work best would be to call her a Time Lady until we have confirmation that she is partly human too. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 18:20, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| :I agree with what's currently on the page - put her down as 'Unknown specie'. I've added warning to Day of the Moon and to this page telling Users not says she's a Time Lord. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 18:25, April 30, 2011 (UTC) | |
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| She is definetley got Galifreyan/Time Lord in her but we should put her as Time Lord (Partly) or (Unconfirmed ).As we do not know who her parents are.[[User:The mysterious|The mysterious]] 18:41, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| She can't be a hybrid, the doctor stated that a half time lord couldn't regenerate in Journey's end. General MGD 109
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| But he was talking about the Meta Crisis Tenth Doctor (MCTD).. The MCTD was mostly human, so he couldn't. But if a Time Lord and a Human were to have a normal child birth, then their child could in fact regenerate. [[User:TheTARDIScontroller|TheTARDIScontroller]] 18:55, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Exatcly, you three have proven the point of why she 'Unknown specie'. We don't what she '''yet'''. We may find out over the course of the series, but until we do, we leave her as unknown. If anyone is to chnage this once the page is unlocked, rest assure you will be blocked and the page will be locked again. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 18:58, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| Seriously, there is a banner specifically stating that these pages are not for theories. Come on guys.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 19:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| It would be speculation to say that she is anything right now, but a half Timelord, half Human, could regenerate, as seen in every episode in which the Doctor regenerates. If the girl is actually the Doctor and Amy's child, it would be 3/4 Human, 1/4 Timelord.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 13:37, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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| Thinking about it now MiniMitch has been right all along, we put nothing down until we know for sure. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 14:18, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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| she isn't the doctor and amy's child because amy is married to rory[[Special:Contributions/2.120.20.140|2.120.20.140]] 15:01, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Add video ==
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| Can we add this video of the "regeneration"? http://youtu.be/gttPZV3icHE <font face="Kristen ITC" color="Green">[[:wikipedia:User:Tyw7#p|''Tyw7'']]</font> ([[:wikipedia:User:Tyw7/t|☎ Contact me!]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tyw7|Contributions]]) ''Changing the world one edit at a time!'' 19:20, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| Nope. It's against [[Tardis:Video policy]].----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 19:22, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| ==Proposed revision== | |
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| This '''girl''' contacted [[Richard Nixon]] for help, as she was scared of the "[[the Silence|Monsters]]" and believed that "the spaceman" was trying to eat her. She told Nixon the words "Jefferson Adams Hamilton", leading Nixon to believe she was a boy, but the [[Eleventh Doctor]] helped them to discover that these were the names of street names, the only three in the same place together in Florida, at that time the only place that spacemen could be found.
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| She was later found by [[The Doctor]], but was shot at by [[Amy Pond]], who recognised the space suit, and believed that the girl had/would at some point kill the doctor.
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| ([[DW]]: ''[[The Impossible Astronaut]]'')
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| Three months later she again encountered Amy, who had only shot a hole in the suit's visor, in what appeared to be her bedroom at the [[Graystark Hall Children's Home]]. After Amy was kidnapped by the Silence, she was able to free herself from the suit, which had been fitted with Alien technology to act as a life support.
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| Six months later, her deteriorating health caused her to [[Regeneration|regenerate]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[Day of the Moon]]'')
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| == Shooting ==
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| Why is Amy shooting the girl in the suit listed as being in the Day of the Moon and not Impossible Astronaut?
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| [[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] 20:46, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
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| == The Doctor and Amy's Daughter? ==
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| Is the little girl the Doctor and Amy's daughter? There were hints about this in the episode, and she regenerated at the end.
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| <p style="margin-left: 40px">There's no way to know as of yet. She could be their daughter. She could be someone completely new. She could be the Rani, Romana, a young River Song, Jenny, or even some combination of the four (as in, Romana turns out to be River who is also the child). Right now, we just have to wait and see. [[Special:Contributions/58.110.182.64|58.110.182.64]] 00:43, May 1, 2011 (UTC)</p>
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| <p style="margin-left: 40px">According to Confidential, she's called Susan. [[Special:Contributions/207.207.134.249|207.207.134.249]] 04:31, May 1, 2011 (UTC)</p>
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| There's a discussion for this on the forum. Please don't use talk pages.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 09:41, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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| She can't be amy and the doctor's because amy is married to rory[[Special:Contributions/2.120.20.140|2.120.20.140]] 14:57, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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| I'm sorry, but it is genetically possible to have a baby with someone you're not lawfully wedded to.
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| == Home Planet ==
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| You cant put her home planet as Earth we dont even no who her parents are seeing as the admins have locked there's nothing we can't do anything about it i understand the point of locking it but not for 24 hours we have to change it to Earth (Seen Last) [[User:The mysterious|The mysterious]] 10:03, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Near-human ==
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| Until we know for sure, can the page at least be edited to display the little girl's species as [[Near-human]]? [[User:Witoki|Witoki]] 15:39, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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| I've cleared up the Earth and near-human issues. If there are any more, please make them clear here. Thanks.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 16:25, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
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