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Hi I was wondering what is the status on the year skip we ignoring it or what. Some articles on this wiki are ignoring it the cult of skaro articles are. I think it is Dalek caan I am not sure it might be sec says they came in in 2006 which obviously ignores the year skip. I think I saw a few other articles ignore it. Yet the articles on each year do not ignore the year skip and I dont think the battle of canary wharf one does. Really I think we should just decide one way or the other wether to ignore it or not. I used to think it was no big deal just have Rose set in 2004, but the end of time thing kinda screwed that when Rose said it was 2005. We should just decide one way or the other change them to accomodate or ignore the time skip. I am aware of the setting everything in 2009 theory but that still wouldn't make the battle in 2006. If it wasn't for that one line in End of time this could easily be explained. We could probably just have it that rose wanted to see how drunk he was LOL and thats why she said 2005 a year later than it was. Though that still dosen't explain why the doctor didn't react, maybe he got mixed up to. User:Winehousefan: 22:25, June 9, 2010 [UTC]

We're not ignoring the year skip. From the end of Rose until the 2009 specials, the modern-time episodes took place a year in the future. Then the 2009 specials took place in 2009. Many articles were changed back and forth during the debates over this, and not all of them were fixed when the debates were settled, so fix any that you find. Or, if it's not obvious what to do for a particular story, bring it up on the Talk page or in the Forum (but not the Howling--this is for speculation, not for fixing articles). --Falcotron 23:21, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

The truth is, the writers didin't give a crap, and went and ignored it, like: Blink, waired 2007, dialouge say it's 2007; The Fire of Pompiie, Donna references the series 4 premire as being 2008, the year it aired. Seires 5 did the same thing. The writers just don't care. The writers ignore it, and people her ignore that the writers ignore it. I just blame the crack.

The Torchwood set during series 2, Torchwood series 2, and the website messages set during series 2, ALL say it's early 2008, the year that series aired, which takes place after Doctor Who series 3, which is placed in 2007 by dialouge. Torchwood series 2, which everything cites as early 2008, it set shortly before Doctor Who series 4, which both Partners in Crime and The Waters of Mars describe as being 2008. The 2009 special Planet of the Dead forces series 4 to be in 2008 by being set in April 2009 -- but after The Stolen Earth/Journey's End, which was in May or June. Children of Earth was dated September 2009, the year it aired, again ignoring the year skip crap. The list goes on. Seires 5 gave it a big "f-off" by throwing the year 2010 around, the year it aired. I'm half-expecting the events of The Stolen Earth/Journey's End to be classed as "two years ago" when tey return to Amy's time period in 2010, and again refered to as being 2008. I will be lauhging all the way into next Tuesday, as it will finally teach the users here to ignore that stupid year crap, like the wrtiers did. Delton Menace 02:11, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

I do hate the year skipm in smoe ways. It does get confusing when you see slitheen in 2006. But stil thats clarified it for me. I think it probably is just RTD didn't care he normally does remember stuff about stories he's written, not like some other shows. But he probably forgot about it first and then thought who cares one jot he's a time travellor and that was that when he remebered it. Off topic but it was steven moffat that came up with the whole time wimey thing right I mean the phrase obviously not time itself LOL. Winehousefan: 16:10, June 10, 2010 [UTC]

Delton I said it and I will say it again you are mad, look all I am sayiong is the year ahead thing happened and then the doctor restroed it by returning to 2009 in the end of time. So there the time line is on sink and anyone who changes it I will change it back so Ha. --Catkind121 16:56, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

All on-screen evidence clearly says the ertiers didn't give two fucks about that year bullshit, and then Moffat decided to come up with a "time-wimey," which could mean the Doctor made it happen in 2005. Hey, he can do things like that. Planet of the Dead took the cake, and make you all look stupid: April 2009, after the series 4 finale, which was in May, forcing it to be in 2008, which every squeeze of both on-screen and off-screen clearly say. Donna wouldn't find love and get married within the span of 6 months, either. It would take, get this, at least a year. So ha, yourself. Delton Menace 19:32, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

I think Moffat has gone out of his way to make it completely reasonable to ignore the issue, rather than having to decide whether or not it happened. Amy's time isn't directly connected to Rose/Martha/Donna/Wilf's, because the Doctor didn't pick her up right after leaving Wilf; he dove back into the past, spent some time in 2008, and just happened to end up near the present day when it was all over. Nothing that happened on Earth in 2009 or 2010 after Journey's End has been mentioned.

What this means is that if RTD announced tomorrow that TEoT actually happened Christmas 2010 (or the fans all decided that on the basis of evidence, or whatever), it wouldn't make a lick of difference. The Doctor still picked up Amy in June 2010, it was still after Journey's End, and that's all that matters.

Of course as editors of a wiki trying to put the RTD modern-Earth events into a timeline of Earth's history that makes sense for non-time-travelers like Wilf and far-future historians like ourselves, we don't have the luxury of deciding it doesn't matter. But Moffat does, and he's taken advantage of that, and good for him. --Falcotron 02:37, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Even thought he already said in commentary that Donna's second wedding following the events of the End of Time was in early 2010, Spring (March, April, May 2010)? The debate ended as long time ago. Now the debate is if the even was a year skip, at all. Delton Menace 03:40, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

The point is that it doesn't matter at all, for this season. It only matters for people trying to build a timeline for 2004-2009 Earth during the RTD era. Which means we can't look to Moffat or any future writers for any further help, because he has no reason to care one way or the other. He's written it so he doesn't _have_ to care. --Falcotron 03:43, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

If I were the writer, I would say the crack swallowed the year gap, and put things in sync again, explaining why both on-screen and off-screen things put their fingers up at the year thing, and dedcided to ignore. Heck, they began ignoring it as far back as 'Dalek'... but the people here just can't accept thse things, unfortuately. All Torchwood both on-screen and off-screen has ignored it, all series of Doctor Who ignored it... It never existed! DAMN YOU, CRACK.

They should use the crack to explain the UNIT dating controversy, too. It could clean up every single "continuity error" that ever existed involving time. Also, I want to be of note, one of the spin-off media stories (one from DWM, I believe) set duirng the specials era is set after Planet of the Dead and very shortly after Children of Earth involving the 456 Incident and the honeymoon, which was September 2009, and very shortly before The End of Time. I think that also stamps it all down in place, too. Delton Menace 03:53, June 11, 2010 (UTC)