Talk:Remembrance of the Daleks (TV story)

I just removed a bunch of "goofs" items that misunderstand things that seem fairly obvious. Perhaps the most glaring was claiming the Doctor mistook Gilmore for the Brigadier; all we see is that he mistook him for a Brigadier. That's a rank, not a specific individual!

• Please sign your comments. I agree this wasn't an error - it was obviously an in-joke. 23skidoo 19:11, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Impossible timeframe.

So "The Dalek Invasion of Earth" is c2164. The Doctor mentions that "The Daleks" was AFTER that. Then, we see Thals in "Planet of the Daleks" which is the 26th century, and they state that "The Daleks" was "generations ago". In "Destiny of the Dakleks" the Thals are no longer on Skaro, while the Daleks are returning(Planet mentioned they ahd been driven off Skaro by the 26th century). Davros is in "Destiny.". "Resurrection of the Daleks" is after "Destiny" and features 2 timelines. The "present", where Earth has spaceflight(and must be after both "Destiny" per Davros) and 1984, where the Daleks and their allies travel BACK in time to. Then, in 1963 comes "Remembrance of the Daleks". This is clearly AFTER both "Resurrection" and "Revelation of the Daleks", yet there is no time travel(excluding The Doctor and Ace). In fact, The Doctor even says to Ace about how the Daleks may be evil but they wouldn't screw with the timeline. In other words, Davros and his Dalejks would attack Earth at the time, NOT in the past. But "Planet" is the 26th century, then "Destiny" is after that, "Resurrection" is after that, "Revelation" is after that, and "Remembrance"is after THAT. How the fuck can it be 1963?

Alternate timeline. It never happened. Perhaps in that timeline that was the invasion which, in ours, took place in the 22nd century.Boblipton ^{talk to me} 15:45, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

It should also be noted that there are strong implications that there indeed was time travel involved in "Remembrance" other than just the Doctor and Ace. The Daleks have a Time Controller, the Doctor talks about them not wanting to alter time (how would this be a factor if they weren't time travelling?), and of course there is the line referenced in the questin below (stating that the Hand is "entering Skaro time zone"). That should resolve some of the concern raised above.Spreee ^{talk to me} 14:12, July 14, 2012 (UTC)Spreee

Was Skaro destoyed or not

How could it be destroyed in 1963 yet still be around in episodes that take place after that? --206.177.43.71^{talk to me} 18:50, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

There's been a good amount of discussion on that point over the years. Before Skaro is destroyed, one of the Daleks tracking the Hand of Omega states that it is "entering Skaro time zone". The implication seems to be that it has time-travelled (not too surprising for a Time Lord device), presumably to the point in time that this batch of Daleks came from. The story would indicate then that Skaro was indeed destroyed, but in some point in the far future, not in 1963. Spreee ^{talk to me} 15:35, July 13, 2012 (UTC)Spreee

Speculation. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 17:21, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, but I'm not proposing that we add anything more to the page about it, simply answering the question. The reference to "entering Skaro time zone" sure seems to indicate something related to time travel is going on at that moment, and it doesn't narratively make sense to be anything else other than the Hand. So, it's a reasonable conclusion, but not anything I'd advocate stating as fact on this wiki. Spreee ^{talk to me} 14:01, July 14, 2012 (UTC)Spreee

Here's a few quotes from the novelization of this episode

1. Here, twenty millennia ago, the final conflict between the Thals and Kaleds had ended.
2. For a fragment of non-time, time was irrelevant and distance was a delusion. On the fringes of the Skarosian system the Hand of Omega became part of the normal universe.
3. Through it all passed the Hand of Omega, screaming its mirth. Then it shot back into the place that is no place on its way back to the past.

This woould seem to imply that Skaro was destroyed in the future. -- Loyal Companion

Details?

There are several major details left out, but I haven't seen the episode for a long time. Should someone update it? 184.45.24.39^{talk to me} 20:14, April 20, 2013 (UTC)