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But this also makes me wonder how they'll go about handling the Valeyard in the future. I always wondered what exactly the Master meant by "between" the 12th and final incarnations, because that could mean during his stint as Twelve, or it could even imply that Thirteen is the Valeyard, and that there is somehow a Fourteenth after him. If it turns out that the method the Sisterhood used to cause him to regenerate was indeed a trick, and not one of his own, then perhaps that's what causes the Valeyard to come about. It could be that, in the future, they (or someone else, even) once again convince/force him to falsely regenerate. It's completely possible, given how we were only just now shown the manner of him turning into the Warrior, and that Capaldi will be playing the Doctor who is supposed to become the Valeyard at some point. The timing seems too relevant to ignore. I'm going to go ahead and make a guess that this could be a future season finale plot. I can easily see ending a season with this, and having the Valeyard appear in a special or two, before finally regenerating into Thirteen/Fourteen. | But this also makes me wonder how they'll go about handling the Valeyard in the future. I always wondered what exactly the Master meant by "between" the 12th and final incarnations, because that could mean during his stint as Twelve, or it could even imply that Thirteen is the Valeyard, and that there is somehow a Fourteenth after him. If it turns out that the method the Sisterhood used to cause him to regenerate was indeed a trick, and not one of his own, then perhaps that's what causes the Valeyard to come about. It could be that, in the future, they (or someone else, even) once again convince/force him to falsely regenerate. It's completely possible, given how we were only just now shown the manner of him turning into the Warrior, and that Capaldi will be playing the Doctor who is supposed to become the Valeyard at some point. The timing seems too relevant to ignore. I'm going to go ahead and make a guess that this could be a future season finale plot. I can easily see ending a season with this, and having the Valeyard appear in a special or two, before finally regenerating into Thirteen/Fourteen. | ||
--[[User:Saghan|Saghan]] [[User talk:Saghan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:31, November 26, 2013 (UTC) | --[[User:Saghan|Saghan]] [[User talk:Saghan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:31, November 26, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:My impression was the the Sisterhood reviving the Doctor would have allowed him to regenerate naturally regardless of further interference, the Sisterhood's "potions" simply allowed the next form to be controlled, during the Second Doctor's trial, the Time Lord offer him the chance to pick his next form so there is precedent for that. But yeah, other Time Lords (e.g. Romana) have shown the ability to control their next forms. I think the most important part is that the Doctor naturally doesn't have much control over them for whatever reason and so needed assistance to take a certain form or to have certain traits. | |||
:That being said, I always got the impression that the Valeyard was not a true incarnation of the Doctor but rather an in-between form like the Watcher (or [[K'anpo Rimpoche|Cho Je]]). Which does lead to some potential hypothetical storylines; presumably one where the Doctor and the Valeyard have an ongoing conflict arc where the Valeyard is manifested and trying to take over and is eventually concluded with the Doctor finally winning and merging the Valeyard back into him and regenerating. I mean I guess until we see it we won't know but if the Valeyard is an in-between form I cannot really see it playing out any other way. - [[User:The Light6|The Light6]] [[User talk:The Light6|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:58, November 26, 2013 (UTC) | |||