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:My impression was the the Sisterhood reviving the Doctor would have allowed him to regenerate naturally regardless of further interference, the Sisterhood's "potions" simply allowed the next form to be controlled, during the Second Doctor's trial, the Time Lord offer him the chance to pick his next form so there is precedent for that. But yeah, other Time Lords (e.g. Romana) have shown the ability to control their next forms. I think the most important part is that the Doctor naturally doesn't have much control over them for whatever reason and so needed assistance to take a certain form or to have certain traits. | :My impression was the the Sisterhood reviving the Doctor would have allowed him to regenerate naturally regardless of further interference, the Sisterhood's "potions" simply allowed the next form to be controlled, during the Second Doctor's trial, the Time Lord offer him the chance to pick his next form so there is precedent for that. But yeah, other Time Lords (e.g. Romana) have shown the ability to control their next forms. I think the most important part is that the Doctor naturally doesn't have much control over them for whatever reason and so needed assistance to take a certain form or to have certain traits. | ||
:That being said, I always got the impression that the Valeyard was not a true incarnation of the Doctor but rather an in-between form like the Watcher (or [[K'anpo Rimpoche|Cho Je]]). Which does lead to some potential hypothetical storylines; presumably one where the Doctor and the Valeyard have an ongoing conflict arc where the Valeyard is manifested and trying to take over and is eventually concluded with the Doctor finally winning and merging the Valeyard back into him and regenerating. I mean I guess until we see it we won't know but if the Valeyard is an in-between form I cannot really see it playing out any other way. - [[User:The Light6|The Light6]] [[User talk:The Light6|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:58, November 26, 2013 (UTC) | :That being said, I always got the impression that the Valeyard was not a true incarnation of the Doctor but rather an in-between form like the Watcher (or [[K'anpo Rimpoche|Cho Je]]). Which does lead to some potential hypothetical storylines; presumably one where the Doctor and the Valeyard have an ongoing conflict arc where the Valeyard is manifested and trying to take over and is eventually concluded with the Doctor finally winning and merging the Valeyard back into him and regenerating. I mean I guess until we see it we won't know but if the Valeyard is an in-between form I cannot really see it playing out any other way. - [[User:The Light6|The Light6]] [[User talk:The Light6|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:58, November 26, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Although not the most trustworthy of witnesses, the Master did say (in ''[[The Trial of a Time Lord]]'') that the Valeyard wasn't a true incarnation of the Doctor. What he said also implied that the Valeyard wasn't an in-between form like the Watcher, either. He described the Valeyard as an incarnation of an '''aspect''' of the Doctor (his dark side), rather than of the Doctor himself. The Valeyard was said to have arisen "between [the Doctor's] twelfth & final incarnations" -- i.e., at round about the Doctor's next regeneration, since Eleven is the Doctor's twelfth incarnation. --[[Special:Contributions/89.241.217.89|89.241.217.89]]<sup>[[User talk:89.241.217.89#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:02, November 26, 2013 (UTC) | |||
