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Should the invalid tag be removed from this story now? We've had two LEGO debates at this point, and this is the only story to not be affected by any of the standing agreements (video games are rarely stories, stories must suggest that they have the rights to use said characters, ads are not stories, etc). [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 21:30, June 7, 2017 (UTC) | Should the invalid tag be removed from this story now? We've had two LEGO debates at this point, and this is the only story to not be affected by any of the standing agreements (video games are rarely stories, stories must suggest that they have the rights to use said characters, ads are not stories, etc). [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 21:30, June 7, 2017 (UTC) | ||
: OS25's argument isn't wrong, but he was making it on the wrong talk page. The reasoning holds for the ''other'' LEGO webcast with the Doctor in it, [[WC]]: ''[[Supergirl Meets E.T. (webcast)|Supergirl Meets E.T.]]''. But while it's abstractly true of ''Doctor, Doctor, Doctor'' as well, the thing is that the YouTube upload of ''DDD'' clearly labels it a '''trailer''' (as was already discussed above). The decision at [[Thread:257478]] was that narrative trailers were, and remained, '''invalid''' as a ''rule'', even if they are also stories. | |||
: So if we ever overturn that precedent, sure, ''DDD'' could be valid regardless of the status of the video game itself. But under the current policy, it has its ''own'' rationale for invalidity, on its own terms. | |||
: '''''Doctor, Doctor, Doctor'' remains an invalid source'''. Please nobody start a thread about this, because nothing could possibly change this ruling so long as the "trailers are invalid" rule stands. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:36, October 22, 2020 (UTC) |
Revision as of 00:36, 22 October 2020
Enemy
Okay, I'll stop undoing the edits to prevent an edit war. However, I'm opening a discussion to determine wheter or not Peter Venkman and Doc Brown are or not enemies on the story. First, I'll say that just because a parameter on the infobox exists, doesn't mean it will be usefull (or required) on every page it is used.
As an example. The Lost, just like this page, uses {{Infobox Story}}. However, we will never use the parameter "|doctor =" on there, because there isn't a Doctor on the story.
Similarly, there is a {{Infobox Story}} template on this page. However, using the "|enemy =" parameter is simply wrong. Peter and Doc Brown are not enemies. They are "good guys" whose interests (to keep driving) conflict with each other's. This is definitely not enough to call them (or, in fact, anyone else in this situation) an enemy.
The "|enemy =" parameter is very useful, but only for the pages where it is needed. This is not one of them. EIther Peter Venkman and Doc Brown should be on the "|featuring =" parameter, or the three Doctors should be on the "|main character =" parameter. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 18:59, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
Trailer
Shouldn't this be considered an original trailer for LEGO Dimensions? I mean the title for the YouTube video states that it is. I think it should be considered an original trailer much like Campfire (trailer). Any thoughts? --Borisashton ☎ 15:48, January 27, 2017 (UTC)
- I think the difference between this and Campfire is that Campfire doesn't really have a story. It has "narrative", but there isn't a beggining, a middle and an end. Is just Donna narrating how the life with the Doctor is. Doctor, Doctor, Doctor, on the other hand, does.
- Beggining: The Doctor is walking down a road
- Middle: He meets two other "Doctors", and they crash
- End: They are stuck in a pile of LEGO pieces, and Harley says someone should call a Doctor
- To me, this is closer to Transmission from Mars (webcast). A really small story that also advertises a product. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 15:45, January 27, 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough. I'd just thought I'd bring it up in the circumstances. --Borisashton ☎ 15:48, January 27, 2017 (UTC)
Invalid
Should the invalid tag be removed from this story now? We've had two LEGO debates at this point, and this is the only story to not be affected by any of the standing agreements (video games are rarely stories, stories must suggest that they have the rights to use said characters, ads are not stories, etc). OS25 (Talk) 21:30, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
- OS25's argument isn't wrong, but he was making it on the wrong talk page. The reasoning holds for the other LEGO webcast with the Doctor in it, WC: Supergirl Meets E.T.. But while it's abstractly true of Doctor, Doctor, Doctor as well, the thing is that the YouTube upload of DDD clearly labels it a trailer (as was already discussed above). The decision at Thread:257478 was that narrative trailers were, and remained, invalid as a rule, even if they are also stories.
- So if we ever overturn that precedent, sure, DDD could be valid regardless of the status of the video game itself. But under the current policy, it has its own rationale for invalidity, on its own terms.
- Doctor, Doctor, Doctor remains an invalid source. Please nobody start a thread about this, because nothing could possibly change this ruling so long as the "trailers are invalid" rule stands. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 00:36, October 22, 2020 (UTC)