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"Ears conspiracy"

Hi, sorry this reply took so long, been wrapped up in my university finals for the past few weeks. I have looked further into what I like to call the "Ears conspiracy"; When the Doctor first looks in Rosa's mirror, he does more than comment on his ears. He full on says it "could have been worse", alluding to a recent regeneration that he hasn't seen the end result from. And, in The Beast of Babylon, he only starts talking about Rose when telling Ali about his trip to Earth from Rose, and when saying Ali has traits similar to her. Granted, he brings the whole thing up at random after showing the planet to her, so perhaps it's still a recent thing for him. But, he still talks about "when [he] met Rose, [he]'d only just regenerated", "still finding [his] feet", with a mindset of "new body, new start, new companion".

To be honest, I was kind'a hoping to not find anything when I was looking into this; I like the theory and solution you and I came up with together. But, facts like these can't be ignored, otherwise we'd be divulging into the taboo that is speculation and theorising by selecting what print we choose to follow.

Also, while I'm here, you recently moved The Bleeding Heart to before The Oncoming Storm. Does the Doctor act the same as he does in The Oncoming Storm, or is he using his blue sonic screwdriver in The Oncoming Storm? Sorry to be a pain about it, but I don't have the funds to listen to The Churchill Years or Ninth Doctor Chronicles and have to get my infomsation ftom second hand sources to update the timeline theory page. Perhaps I could interest you into editing it with me, since you clearly know more about the Ninth Doctor's Big Finish adventures than I do at the moment.

Hope you have a nice day, BananaClownMan ☎ 00:45, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

I haven't found any Vortex or forums in Google search, but have made a note of it with a source tag anyway. I did find that free audio you mentioned, thank you for that. Will give it a listen when I have the time.BananaClownMan ☎ 19:39, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

It would seem the novelisation of The Day of the Doctor has brought an end to our debate. According to User:NateBumber, the freshly regenerated Ninth Doctor smashed all the TARDIS mirrors due to a vow he took to never find out what face he was wearing, apparently to atone for killing the children of Gallifrey. With this knowledge, we now know why he said "could have been worse" when accidently looking at Rose's mirror; he's emotionally recovered enough to not be bothered about catching an accidental glimpse, and analyse his features. I think you're right about the "ears complex"; he's probably felt them enough to dislike them, and getting a good look at them did not changed his opinion.BananaClownMan ☎ 20:46, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

You know, the novelisation of Rose might just of given us a rare moment in debating that scarcely happens; the chance for both parties to be right. I believed that Rose happened early due to the Ninth Doctor's comments about how it "could have been worse" when looking in a mirror, and authorial intend behind the line. You believed that Rose happened later due to, and I quote, "The Beast of Babylon [framing] all its story around [the ending of] Rose". In the novelization, it is mentioned that there was a twelve week gap between these two incidences, which does not seem to contradict the television story and making it valid by the wiki's rules. If my math is right, that leaves 84 days maximum unaccounted for.

I propose that at the tail end of his "early days", he meets Rose at Hendrik's, gets the Auton arm and then leaves, believing his work done. After his twelve weeks of "solitary exploits" (that can include the anthology short stories and cameo appearances), he returns to London again for whatever reason, properly the TARDIS bringing him to "where [he] needed to be" I guess.

What do you think? BananaClownMan ☎ 21:26, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

"Whoisdoctorwho.co.uk" question

How come the information from Whoisdoctorwho.co.uk is in the behinds the scenes section of pages with the out-of-universe information, but the page and all related pages are categorized as in-universe information?

If its a lack of citation needed on the main sections, why not use (WC: Who is Doctor Who)? BananaClownMan ☎ 16:50, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Renaming The War

Hey there Revan! Seeing as you're (to my knowledge) the most FP-familiar admin, I was just wondering if you'd be willing to take a gander at my suggestion to rename The War to War in Heaven, based on the arguments presented at Talk:The War and The War#Naming. There's no rush at all, but I really do think it would help with disambiguation and a lot of other stuff. So let me know what you think! – N8 ☎ 21:08, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Reaching out

Hi! I bumped into an edit that falls into the area where we had disagreements before. For reasons I will explain shortly, I believe that this is just an echo of some old decisions. I would hate to bring this to the kind of attention and emotion that these debates usually get. Thus, I am reaching out in the hope, based on your earlier positions, that we can agree on how this should be treated. The edit in question is about the first appearance of the Thirteenth Doctor. Based on your seeming reluctance in the past to accept her first appearance to be in a mini-short story published by CJB, I hope that you would consider the current state equally inappropriate. Note that first appearances can be used by editors to determine copyright for characters. So having this particular story listed as her first appearance seems to give the copyright for her to Sue Hampton.

Thing is, this novel was released back in August 2017, around the time of the mini-short. A lot of time passed since then. There were the "fireworks" around the Christmas special (a grandfather dilemma, if you will). And then the two copyright-wielding sides found a compromise. (Or at least that's how it looks to me. At the very least they stopped lobbing public cease-and-desist messages.) Given these later developments, I really would not want to rekindle the state of affairs the way it was in August 2017. This is a genuine dispute that exists objectively beyond the wiki. And a truce within and without the wiki is as good as it gets for now. Thus, I am contacting you before taking any action. I would appreciate it if you could let me know your position on what should be the first appearance of the Thirteenth Doctor. If we can agree on that, we can try to find the least invasive change that would not disturb the truce. Amorkuz ☎ 00:14, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Great! That makes three of us agreeing on the edit, already implemented by TheChampionOfTime. Additionally, he clarified that August 2017 was just a pre-release, so no rules need to be broken. Unbeknownst to me, the regular release of this book was in January, after the Christmas special. And discounting pre-releases is a standard practice. For instance, pre-screenings of episodes have been discounted multiple times.

It also turned out to be a good opportunity to compare our views and learn that they are in agreement as far as the big picture is concerned. I completely agree that CJB is part of DWU. I even agree, as a fan, that it is nice to see nods to (or cameos of) various Doctors/companions. It is the towing of some reasonable line that I have been struggling with. Since I do not have a satisfactory regular solution, lately I generally try not to edit CJB (modulo renaming edits). But cases like this must be resolved in one way or another. And while I certainly did not expect any edit wars, I was worried that, were I to perform the same edit done by TheChampionOfTime (CoT), it could be viewed as not sufficiently impartial by editors who hold CJB dear to their hearts. Thus, my original plan was to ask whether you agree and, if yes, to ask you to make the change to avoid any suspicions of one-sidedness. I believe that CoT's edit and your stated position achieve this goal. So I am quite happy with the result. I am even happier that there was no need to make an exception or invent some artificial rule in order to achieve this result.

Thanks for weighing in on this. And happy editing! Amorkuz ☎ 23:15, September 10, 2018 (UTC)