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I made that last post. Forgot to sign in. Again. I do apologise for how this is becoming rather a habit now. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:52, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
I made that last post. Forgot to sign in. Again. I do apologise for how this is becoming rather a habit now. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:52, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
::: I think Whittham is different. For one thing, we have an illustration of him and he clearly looks just like the policeman in ''An Unearthly Child''. Secondly, while Cranfield and Rawlings are wink-wink easter eggs, it is literally the premise and selling point of ''[[The Last Day at Work (audio story)|The Last Day at Work]]'' that it explains who the ''Unearthly Child'' Policeman really was. If we cannot acknowledge that on this Wiki, then something has gone disastrously wrong. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
::: I think Whittham is different. For one thing, we have an illustration of him and he clearly looks just like the policeman in ''An Unearthly Child''. Secondly, while Cranfield and Rawlings are wink-wink easter eggs, it is literally the premise and selling point of ''[[The Last Day at Work (audio story)|The Last Day at Work]]'' that it explains who the ''Unearthly Child'' Policeman really was. If we cannot acknowledge that on this Wiki, then something has gone disastrously wrong. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
::::There's nothing "disastrously wrong" about requiring sources for info. We don't do assumptions. If something is intended, it can't be that hard to find a source for it. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:48, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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Merger with Reg Cranfield

The information on Reg Cranfield might suggest that this page and that page should be merged. But reading Reg Cranfield's page there's nothing exactly that links him to the policeman seen at the start of An Unearthly Child, and as this page notes Fred Rawlings is also a contender for the role of the policeman.

I don't think that he's named for the actor who played the policeman is enough of a reason to merge. Continuity references are rife in the DWU especially around the 50th anniversary when Shroud of Sorrow (novel) was published. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:11, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

Although I agree that by the Wiki's policy the in-universe evidence isn't tangible enough to make the link, I don't think I understand the point of that last sentence. How does "there were a lot of continuity references being made at the time" invalidate the idea that the name would be a link to the TV character?
Again, I agree that this link shouldn't be drawn for now, but because of a variation of T:NO RL (within the DWU the name has no significance, it's only with real-world knowledge that we understand its relevance), not some nebulous judgement regarding the amount of continuity references that were going on. --Scrooge MacDuck 20:06, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

Surely, if we can't say that Reg Cranfield is this character, the same applies to Fred Rawlings, who is also mentioned on this page. Both are mentioned in the novel Shroud of Sorrow, which I've read, and indeed I got the impression that Reg Cranfield, and not Fred Rawlings, was supposed to be this character. And in either case there's no definitive evidence for either character being this one. Same with Bernard Whittam from The Last Day at Work, actually, who, I must not already has his own page. This page is in a very odd state at the moment and I think most of the parts not specially about An Unearthly Child should probably be removed. 86.170.183.51talk to me 21:51, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

I made that last post. Forgot to sign in. Again. I do apologise for how this is becoming rather a habit now. NightmareofEden 21:52, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

I think Whittham is different. For one thing, we have an illustration of him and he clearly looks just like the policeman in An Unearthly Child. Secondly, while Cranfield and Rawlings are wink-wink easter eggs, it is literally the premise and selling point of The Last Day at Work that it explains who the Unearthly Child Policeman really was. If we cannot acknowledge that on this Wiki, then something has gone disastrously wrong. Scrooge MacDuck 22:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
There's nothing "disastrously wrong" about requiring sources for info. We don't do assumptions. If something is intended, it can't be that hard to find a source for it. Shambala108 22:48, 27 August 2021 (UTC)