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''[[From Wildthyme with Love (novel)|From Wildthyme with Love]]'' is currently mentioned here (and listed [[Astrid Peth - list of appearances|here]]), but shouldn't we follow the precedent set by pages such as [[Ceol]] and [[Cosmic Hobo]] here and create a seperate page for the girl dressed as a maid that looked like that one off Neighbours that Panda witnessed sacrificing herself in a Forklift, given that [[Snowbooks Ltd]] does not have the licence to use the character of Astrid Peth? [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC) | ''[[From Wildthyme with Love (novel)|From Wildthyme with Love]]'' is currently mentioned here (and listed [[Astrid Peth - list of appearances|here]]), but shouldn't we follow the precedent set by pages such as [[Ceol]] and [[Cosmic Hobo]] here and create a seperate page for the girl dressed as a maid that looked like that one off Neighbours that Panda witnessed sacrificing herself in a Forklift, given that [[Snowbooks Ltd]] does not have the licence to use the character of Astrid Peth? [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC) | ||
: Per the conclusions of [[Talk:Legacies (short story)]], that question kinda rides on whether "Astrid" in ''[[From Wildthyme with Love (novel)|From Wildthyme with Love]]'' is just a cameo that alludes to her licensed BBC role without adding to the character, or if it genuinely constitutes ''using'' the character. If the former, there is broad precedent for making a note of it on [[Astrid Peth]] without getting silly about it. | |||
: If Iris Wildthyme mentions she used to have "a friend who travelled in a blue box", we can just pipe-link to [[The Doctor]], we don't need to create [[Man who travelled in a blue box]]. This probably remains true if the cameo has the character "on-screen" in a crowd scene or something. It's only if the story started attributing lines to the character, started saying "The Man with the Blue Box told Iris all about his second wife and his travels to the planet Gendar", that we can no longer accept this to be an appearance of the Doctor unless it was licensed; because it's getting into the territory where, ''if'' we acknowledged it as the Doctor, we'd have to say the story fails [[T:VS|Rule 3]]. | |||
: Whether unnamed cameos so small that they're legally irrelevant, but where the character is still "on-screen" narratively, should be listed on lists of appearances is not something there's a huge amount of precedent on. But assuming all that's going on in ''From Wildthyme With Love'' is a brief aside of Iris seeing the events of ''[[Voyage of the Damned (TV story)|Voyage of the Damned]]'', no more no less, from the distance, the note on this page can probably remain. Could we see some direct quotes from the book? <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 17:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Split?[[edit source]]
From Wildthyme with Love is currently mentioned here (and listed here), but shouldn't we follow the precedent set by pages such as Ceol and Cosmic Hobo here and create a seperate page for the girl dressed as a maid that looked like that one off Neighbours that Panda witnessed sacrificing herself in a Forklift, given that Snowbooks Ltd does not have the licence to use the character of Astrid Peth? NightmareofEden ☎ 20:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Per the conclusions of Talk:Legacies (short story), that question kinda rides on whether "Astrid" in From Wildthyme with Love is just a cameo that alludes to her licensed BBC role without adding to the character, or if it genuinely constitutes using the character. If the former, there is broad precedent for making a note of it on Astrid Peth without getting silly about it.
- If Iris Wildthyme mentions she used to have "a friend who travelled in a blue box", we can just pipe-link to The Doctor, we don't need to create Man who travelled in a blue box. This probably remains true if the cameo has the character "on-screen" in a crowd scene or something. It's only if the story started attributing lines to the character, started saying "The Man with the Blue Box told Iris all about his second wife and his travels to the planet Gendar", that we can no longer accept this to be an appearance of the Doctor unless it was licensed; because it's getting into the territory where, if we acknowledged it as the Doctor, we'd have to say the story fails Rule 3.
- Whether unnamed cameos so small that they're legally irrelevant, but where the character is still "on-screen" narratively, should be listed on lists of appearances is not something there's a huge amount of precedent on. But assuming all that's going on in From Wildthyme With Love is a brief aside of Iris seeing the events of Voyage of the Damned, no more no less, from the distance, the note on this page can probably remain. Could we see some direct quotes from the book? Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 17:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
