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::: While my first pic would be #6 for the reasons I've previously stated, if I ''had'' to choose one of the pictures from the television story, it'd be either #2 or #6. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 21:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
::: While my first pic would be #6 for the reasons I've previously stated, if I ''had'' to choose one of the pictures from the television story, it'd be either #2 or #6. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 21:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Very much in favor of #2 or #3. A push for an illustration as opposed to the actor for the purposes of trying to illustrate NPOV is inherently pushing a POV in my honest opinion. [[Special:Contributions/73.135.193.157|73.135.193.157]]<sup>[[User talk:73.135.193.157#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:41, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

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Seventh Doctor novel

Should Joan Redfern as the one base off the one in the possible discontinue Seventh doctor novel. i mean they have the same name and were tecnically lover of a then human doctorGhidorafour 04:30, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Because Joan Redfern (TV character) and Joan Redfern (novel character) each meet a different Doctor, this wiki considers them as two separate people. I hope that answers your question. Shambala108 05:21, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

fair enough i suppose24.215.188.166talk to me 08:15, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Question

This page is not needed as it is already under the title Joan Redfern (TV character) saying exactly the same--Skittles the hog 21:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't say the same thing, and they are two different characters. While one is based on the other they react and interact with Smith and other characters in a different way. Joan in the novel interacts with Bernice Summerfield in a very different way to Joan in the TV story. --Tangerineduel 22:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Merger

Having different pages for Joan Redfern's two appearances made sense with the state of the wiki in 2007 and 2013, but since Thread:232143's positive ruling on novelisation validity, we have had quite a lot of practice at constructing elaborate "according to another account" arrangements. Is it time for a merger of this page and her equally-awkwardly-dabbed twin Joan Redfern (novel character) into the singular Joan Redfern at long last? – n8 () 07:44, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

New main image

Now that we're treating both TV and novel Joan as one and the same, I propose we give her a new infobox image so that a) the arguably more recognisable TV iteration is up front and centre, and b) to better satisfy our image policy.

WaltK 19:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Personally, I prefer the current image, as it communicates that we don't prioritise the television version of the story. I know that Joan is pretty recognisable from her television appearances, but in terms of stories, they're on equal footing (the television story being a two parter, they're still one story), thus I feel it is compliant with T:NPOV. 20:07, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Well… at the very least we should choose an image to put in the "Meeting the Tenth Doctor" section. WaltK 20:16, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Added a couple of images. 20:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Hold on: let's finish the John Smith debate before we start a similar one here. It's better to have fewer of these debates open at once so users can easily find the ones that are open. Once John Smith is done, we can resume here. Shambala108 02:49, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok John Smith has been finished so we can begin discussion for Joan. One quick note, if the current image is to be kept, it should be cropped a little bit better at the bottom (i.e. remove some of the shoulder area). Shambala108 15:32, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

I quite like #5, which is nicely sharp and has got a lot of emotion to it. I think the poses of the two illustrations are suboptimal, unfortunately, although if we decide to stick with an image from the novel, #6 would have my preference over the current ones. Of the remainder, I like #1a the least. Scrooge MacDuck 19:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
While my first pic would be #6 for the reasons I've previously stated, if I had to choose one of the pictures from the television story, it'd be either #2 or #6. 21:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Very much in favor of #2 or #3. A push for an illustration as opposed to the actor for the purposes of trying to illustrate NPOV is inherently pushing a POV in my honest opinion. 73.135.193.157talk to me 16:41, 22 December 2022 (UTC)