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::::Thanks for weighing in, [[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]]! As always, your experience and perspective are invaluable. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 14:12, 30 January 2023 (UTC) | ::::Thanks for weighing in, [[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]]! As always, your experience and perspective are invaluable. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 14:12, 30 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::Tangerineduel, my only concern is what happens on already existing pages. I don't like the thought of real world pages becoming a minefield of "this topic/actor is relevant to upcoming releases" signs. The subpages are a good idea, it's just finding where to put the links to them that's the problem. I know we have to find a | :::::Tangerineduel, my only concern is what happens on already existing pages. I don't like the thought of real world pages becoming a minefield of "this topic/actor is relevant to upcoming releases" signs. The subpages are a good idea, it's just finding where to put the links to them that's the problem. I know we have to find a compromise, but we also need to acknowledge that people who want spoilers can just go looking for them, but once a spoilerphobe sees something spoilerish, that's it. Their only options are to look further for clarification, or have the possibility hanging over them. Or in the case of those who don't know about the audios, be left under a misassumption. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:21, 30 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
Laura, Najawin, I'm not sure it even bears repeating, but I just still don't think it's accurate or fair to say that our readers will see the words "[[Richard Franklin]] is related to upcoming releases" and conclude that he '''must''' appear in an upcoming TV episode. It's one thing to say "We can't expect our readers to be familiar with our rules." It's another thing entirely to say "We can't expect our readers to understand words as written"! They may not be superfans, but that's no reason to think that they're ''actively illiterate''. That said, this conversation is clearly going in circles, so I'll sit back and trust in the judgment of our admins; with any luck, time and twitter will tell who's right. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 20:12, 30 January 2023 (UTC) | Laura, Najawin, I'm not sure it even bears repeating, but I just still don't think it's accurate or fair to say that our readers will see the words "[[Richard Franklin]] is related to upcoming releases" and conclude that he '''must''' appear in an upcoming TV episode. It's one thing to say "We can't expect our readers to be familiar with our rules." It's another thing entirely to say "We can't expect our readers to understand words as written"! They may not be superfans, but that's no reason to think that they're ''actively illiterate''. That said, this conversation is clearly going in circles, so I'll sit back and trust in the judgment of our admins; with any luck, time and twitter will tell who's right. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 20:12, 30 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
:Nate, it has less to do with readers following the wiki's rules, and more to do with the fact that a lot of fans may not know enough about the EU to consider the audios even being an option. To them "upcoming appearance" ''is'' the TV show. And even for those who are familiar with the EU, like myself, just saying "oh, well, it's probably Big Finish" is not as easy as you seem to think it is. It's easier when it's actors who regularly do multiple audios a year, sure, but other actors not so much. Especially with the 60th anniversary coming up, where character returns are to be expected. The seed will have already been planted, and regardless of whether the character shows up in the TV show or not, it still takes something away from the viewing experience. Only including press releases would lessen the minefield, but if the concensus is to include other official notices as well, I will concede to that, but I really don't see why putting the spoiler links in a less obvious place is such a sacrifice. Even just moving it to the bottom of the actor's credits section would be preferrable. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:49, 31 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
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